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 Post subject: The Conservative and Unionist Party
PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:33 pm 
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Has it become a cult?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
http://www.speroforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3402
http://www.cultsandterror.org/sub-file/ ... nition.htm

Question asked with reference to Thatcher's funeral, Gidiot's tears, Nick Robinson etc etc.


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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:18 am 
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See also today's Express cartoon entries.


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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:58 am 
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I would say so. The North Korean style claim that she was universally loved, the pre-emptive arrest, the rewriting of history, the one-sided reporting, etc.
I went out yesterday morning, and there was nothing to distinguish it from any other day.

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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:29 pm 
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Oh, become a cult. I see.

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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
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I'd replace the L with an N

I think their fawning has been terrible and it has shown how terribly southern centric the news and the papers are (even the BBC which if I'm right have actually moved to Manchester, though it will take time). I wouldn't say it has been a cult but claims that she was someone who is universally liked isn't bore out if you travel outside a 25 mile radius of the home counties. It shows me how detached the press are and why I don't bother picking up a paper anymore, it is also why that even though it was given that Cameron would win the last election outright that he didn't.

I still remember the Tories on Twitter that night dismissing the exit polls as fake and pointing to 1992, the problem is polling had adapted and evolved and they were right, it was amusing until the Lib Dems just proved to be spineless.


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 Post subject: Re: The Conservative and Unionist Party
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:20 pm 
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mattomac wrote:
I wouldn't say it has been a cult but claims that she was someone who is universally liked isn't bore out if you travel outside a 25 mile radius of the home counties.


Yep. The fact of the matter is that the Tories simply can't make a meaningful through across large swathes of the country - and yet they seem to have no interest in doing so, otherwise they wouldn't have recruited Lynton Crosby. They haven't won a parliamentary majority in 21 years and yet media pundits (and their fellow travellers within Labour, who have a vested interest in maintaining the illusion) still treat them with a degree of reverence they just aren't due. That's why you get clueless hacks fawning over Osborne's supposed strategic nous on benefits and so on, when this is the man who's led them into a fairly regular string of high-profile fuck-ups ever since assuming office.

The Tory party is really a party for the rich suburbs and the shires now. Of course, most Fleet Street journalists happen to be drawn from this sort of background themselves, which almost certainly influences the coverage they get. What's more, they're facing long-term decline unless they change tack dramatically - their activist base is being hollowed by age and UKIP, and their poll ratings among the 18-24s are consistently awful (I know turnout is generally lower among the younger age groups, but the Tories can't bank on that anymore).

What I find really astonishing is that the Tories seem to have forgotten that they need to throw a few bones to the lower-middle class and the would-be lower-middle class if they're to win elections. That's why right-to-buy, as damaging as its long-term impact has been, was such a shrewd move at the time. By flogging off council housing and dishing out a few shares, they gave away just enough to buy voters' loyalty to the system as a whole. And all the while, the real gains were being handed out to the ultra-rich. The new breed of Tories want to do plenty of the latter but less of the former, and as a result one of the key elements of their base is getting poorer - and drifting away from them.

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