The difference being that I've highlighted where they're a cock, just as Boyle was a cock here, but I haven't stated a desire for them to be censured as some on this thread seem to have suggested. And sometimes it's good for someone to play devil's advocate to get people thinking about things.

Thatparagraph wasn't directed at you per se, more on the attitude which seems prevalent of him doing this means he should be had up for it simply because we don't like it, I took that logic to another level. My apologies if you didn't quite "get" that bit, perhaps I should have pointed it out better.

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I'm just disappointed that his show is quite so rubbish. He can be very, very funny when he's reacting - panel shows and the like. His stand-up though is just Roy Chubby Brown with the emphasis shifted.

Still, nice to see Rab from Consolevania on telly*


*I suspect this will be relevant to precisely no one.

It's relevant to me! His review of GOD HAND (secret best game on the PS2) convinced me to go out and buy it and I've never looked back since.

Depressingly, I'm bound to agree, having just watched the latest "Tramadol Nights" . About 99% of it was desperately, direly poor, and that includes, in my view, all of the sketch content, which failed on every single count - I mean to say for example, I'm just vaguely aware of what PCP is and the effects it can have on those who take it, but a 2 minute tragically laugh-free sketch whose point must have been utterly lost not just on me, but on nearly everybody else watching is just a total waste of resources.

I do think the guy has a talent for comedy, but it sure as buggery ain't for sketch comedy. I did think that Sadowitz went through a phase when he seemed - counter-productively - to be going well out of his way to be as offensive as he could possibly be, but I now realise that Jerry wasn't - actually being as offensive as he could be, that is to say. Whereas, Boyle most assuredly is - and boy does it show. It's about as laboured as Brucie on Strictly Come Dancing. That's not to say I don't love edgily offensive comedy - I do like that feeling when you initially think "Ooh, that's wrong" - but laugh like a drain anyway, not least because it's made you think. As I did with the Jordan/Harvey gags. But Frankie sure needs to sharpen things up a little- his sketches are a failure writ XX large.

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I agree, I think that with Tramadol Nights Boyle has gone from being edgy to just being crude and I think that Harvey was a undeserving target. Some parts where good and I laughed like hell at the Glaswegian version of Five Children and IT.

I enjoy it when Boyle targeted celebrities like Richard Hammond and even Heath Ledger because they both lived their lives in the public eye. Hammond in particular not only was a public figure but used his accident for a bit of shameless self promotion, hence he was fair game for the ribbings he got.

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I think I've taken the joke up wrongly, entirely. I thought it was a pop at Jordan's utter vacuity, and over-confidence that she would believe such a scenario likely, not a statement that an actual occurrence was either likely or funny. Maybe I'd seen Clerks 2 too recently and the "sex-nuts and retard-strong" "that likeliest of scenarios" exchange was still fresh in my mind.

Still, though: Frankie. It was bound to happen, really. He didn't notice that whilst the Beeb's editing was crushing the delicate flower of his comic stylings, it was also keeping them at a level where they were enjoyable to a much larger audience and, genuinely, much, much funnier. Now he's gained a measure of protection from editors, his self-indulgence is a little painful to watch. And that, for me, is the single biggest issue with Tramadol Nights. It's just fucking lazy. He's being allowed to throw up any old crap without fear of anyone stepping in, and what he's presenting is just that: Any old crap. There's no punch to the show, no drive at all, and for a man known for some quite devastating one liners, that just shouldn't be the case. I can't think of a sketch that hasn't cried out for some brutal and judicious trimming.

A punch in the teeth is funny. A long, drawn out beating is just sad.

Handbags at dawn.

Way to sidestep the entire point there, Frankie.

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OK so which stand-ups would still be standing if there was a "Royal Rumble at the Apollo".

I reckon Dara O'Breien would be there in the last 4, having concussed several lesser comics with a bloody massive physics book.

Stand-up fisticuffs now, is it?

I reckon Andy Parsons can look after himself in that department.

In reference to the Boyle comment, he's right in a sense. Someone who sold out their image to flog cider which the brand hopes his younger fans will probably buy into isn't the greatest thing to do if you're then going to take the moral high-ground. And I say this as a fan of both.

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If we're talking about stand-ups fighting, there's only really going to be one winner:

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Flogging Cider is not quite as odious as flogging the Sun, which Frankie is more than happy to do with his face and his byline. I fear he's painted himself into a rather tight corner in pursuing talk of selling out.

You like Mark Watson AND cider?

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Seconded, given the contrast between Boyle defending the rights of the Palestinians and the average lowest common denominator Sun headline.

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That makes it sound, in the context of this thread, like I support water-boarding but with cider. As any fule know, water-boarding is only acceptable when done with a high-quality red wine or a vintage port.

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I would think that Rich Hall throws a punch like a sledgehammer. He just about tore my arm off shaking my hand once.