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 Post subject: Re: Return of the NotW 'phone-hacking scandal?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:24 pm 
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There's a rumour doing the rounds they did it to the parents of one of Wells / Chapman back when. Maybe Littlejohn is jumping ship before he's shown up to retire and spend more time with his community gates in Florida.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:19 am 
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Mail/Express/Sun/Notw not running with the story at all.
Mirror/Independant/Guardian running with it as main stories


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:30 am 
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How would they have got her mobile number? Slebs are one thing, 13 year old members of the public something else.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:37 am 
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According to the Guardian article:

Private investogator gets list of all (listed and unlisted) landline phone numbers for a given surname in a given area. A friend of his, working for BT, sources the numbers and records of who's been dialled from them. Then it's a case of sifting through them until you hit paydirt. So, if a particular landline's been dialling a particular mobile number frequently since day x, chances are that may be the one you want. Then you check out the mobile number, access the voicemail, and see if the messages left identify the number as the one you want to snoop on.

What appals me - if it's true - is the allegation that police had knowledge at the time that this was going on, and that no action was taken because, well, they're the NOTW, innit? Because if so, that suggests that showbiz, publicity and the human fucking soap opera were more important to these people than doing their fucking job.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:39 am 
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Phone hacking finally getting some due prominence?

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Even the Times is running it on the front page, but predictably, none of the tabloids are going near it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:04 am 
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Assuming you've got someone's mobile number, how do you then access the voicemail?

I wouldn't have a clue how to do it. I'm just curious.

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Abernathy wrote:
Assuming you've got someone's mobile number, how do you then access the voicemail?

I wouldn't have a clue how to do it. I'm just curious.


Something like this. You used to be able to ring their mobile with one 'phone, then ring their mobile again with another one, knowing that it would be engaged (because of the first call) and transfer you to voicemail, at which point you had to hope that they hadn't changed their PIN from the default, and you were in. I know this from watching C4's Dispatches programme, not from personal experience.


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These stories are currently deemed to be more important than this on the Mail website at the moment...

*Retire THEN pay a care home tax: OAPs should face new 2p-in-the pound levy to fund their care, says landmark report

*Holland set for collision with EU over plans to deport Polish immigrants who can't find a job

*Nigerian mother who cost NHS £200k after having quintuplets is working illegally as an Avon Lady

*Messing about on the water: William rules the waves by landing his helicopter on a lake, then he beats Kate in a dragon boat race

*Children of sex offender must be told of 20-year-old crimes after High Court appeal for secrecy fails

*Faulty fridge freezer that caused tower block inferno is owned by half a million homes

*Propaganda coup for Taliban as British soldier is kidnapped and executed on day Cameron makes surprise Afghan visit

Only after all these is the Dowler story mentioned.

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Fair play to the mail in this case - they're the only tabloid with it on the front page


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It's worth remembering how Sharon Shoesmith was treated under Brooks. The Sun went after her with both barrels because, by their logic, whoever is in charge needs to take civil and criminal liability regardless of their involvement in the actual case.

I'm not suggesting for a second that I believe Brooks was actually an innocent bystander in all this, as she claims. But even by her own admission, and previous logic, she should at the very least not be in her job any more (without any severance pay) and more realistically should be on bail facing charges.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:48 am 
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As ever...

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 107054035/

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Meanwhile David Cameron, who only last week presented Rupert Murdoch with a nude self-portrait, is to base his response to the scandal on hoping that secretly you don't really care about it at all.

A Downing Street source said: "The prime minister's political instincts are as reliable now as they were when he employed Andy Coulson on the basis that a former editor of the News of the World is physically incapable of telling a lie."


And for a bonus second story - http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 107054034/

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Given the hysteria of the Mail over the court's treatment of the Dowler family, you'd think that they would regard this as a slightly bigger story, wouldn't you?


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http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-s ... y-sun-page


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 Post subject: Re: Return of the NotW 'phone-hacking scandal?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:40 am 
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Wonder if this will make any difference:

http://hackinginquiry.org/


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 Post subject: Re: Return of the NotW 'phone-hacking scandal?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:41 pm 
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I got this in and amazingly it's in the green.

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Remember the owner of the paper in question is a personal friend of Cameron and is the Tories paymaster and the most powerful man in Britain. Cameron has just waved through his ownership of the whole of BSkyB, against competition law, and is lining him up to run the privatised BBC and drive down standards there at the expense of the licence payers. Therefore I don't see Cameron pursuing him too hard in this case. Nothing wrong with gutter journalism as long as it's Tory gutter journalism, eh Dave?
- Jim, Durham, 5/7/2011 11:36

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