'E's a legend innit. Don't bovver 'im wiv details.

He wasn't bothered with too many details in the mayoral campaign, that's for sure.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/05/30 ... a-purnell/

What a lovely bunch of people.

Well done, Tim Fenton.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -goldsmith



You first, Stanley.

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After you onto the boat then.

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Another expensively educated ignoramus with a nasty streak as big as the Cotswolds.

Are you sure he wants them on boats, or does he have a more ahem, direct solution?

I was being generous and giving him the benefit of the doubt.

That said, whichever way you cut it, reducing the population of the UK to 15 million tops would involve some pretty serious culling of everybody, not some "Who's next" pick off the minorities one by one thing. I envisage him either at Porton Down, unscrewing glass jars, or in a Cambridge research lab, letting go all the rage-infected monkeys.

Anyway. Guy's a twat. Or a psycho. Or both.

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Probably a eugenicist to boot.

On another forum, some fuckwit of a pop journalist (not one of those I've mentioned before here) accused me of not liking brown people when I mentioned population sustainability and something I'd read by Jared Diamond. But this quote just shows a fuckwit who sees all that stuff (anti-racism feminism) as the same. Anyway, wouldn't a feminist tend to argue more for contraception and freeing young women from being pregnant all the time? I bet they're really shouting you down, Stanley.

People who discuss population include such unknowns as David Attenborough and Jonathan Porritt.

I wonder if he's noticed that a fair bit of the rise is due to non-whites marrying people from abroad? Most clowns like him don't. They probably think the darkies who don't speak English have been through "useless inner city comprehensives" or something.

Funnily enough on Cracked, I've just read an article that pretty much blows apart the 'happy campers' myth of sustainable populations living as one with the land and so on. Population controls do happen, such as massive plagues - they tend to be horrible and traumatic*.

The 'nature finds a happy balance, hmans are just a virus with shoes' argument is a bit of a red herring too - yes, populations of animals tend to exist at sustainable levels for their environments, but it's not some magic pixie dust wafting in the air, it's a hell of a lot of killing, abandoning and, well, acting like a bunch of animals going on.

*The article in question was about European population of North America, and how, between the Roanoake colony and the landing of the Pilgrim Fathers a devastating plague killed perhaps 95% of the population between the coast and Appalachians. Fascinating stuff.

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Isn't the "populationist" (I made the word up) exactly that we don't (thankfully) have so many of these brutal natural culls, so that we have to a planned policy to stop it not getting too high over time?

Bit of both as far as I can understand. On the one hand, densely packed societies develop systems to better cope with disasters. On the other hand, lots of people in one place can increase the impact of a disaster (greater demand for scarce resources, greater communicability of disease, greater impact of secondary disasters - looting and civil disorder, sanitation failure and so on).

The larger a population, certainly the chances someone will survive become much greater. But a population needs to take the best advantage of the resources it needs to survive. One thing to remember about plagues etc is that they generally leave the other stuff - roads, laid out farmland, buildings etc - intact. Giving an automatic leg up to the survivors.

In the case of the Cracked article, it's actually a serious debunking of the commonly held myths about the founding of the American colonies. Without the massive plague, the colonies would never have managed to establish a foothold above the trading post level (hey, the fucking Vikings tried it and failed) because there were just so goddamn many Amerindians living in the 13 colonies area. So it wasn't quite pilgrims striking out alone into an untamed wilderness, so much as settlers moving into abandoned plots and starting up where Geronimo had left off when he carked it.

Had the plague not hit, the history of America (and the rest of the world) would have been VERY different. Then again ditto the Black Death killing off feudalism, ushering in the renaissance and enlightenment etc.

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A reasonable feminist (largely third-wave/Intersectionality movement feminists, in my opinion) would argue for free choice, state responsibilities and for education of sexual matters - for girls AND boys (and everyone in between! <3).

Mind you, some of us also want to legalise prostitution so hey, take what we say in light of that

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