Jeremy Clarkson

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:12 am

You can go back even further to Alf Garnett, where the same problem arose.

However, Clarkson is not even one hundredth part as funny as any of those - which is sort of where the current problem arises.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:14 am

Shitslop would get away with it.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:18 am

That's probably because of the sort of hyper-exaggerated mummery he performs.

He all but holds up a huge placard saying "THIS IS SATIRE".

oboogie · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:05 am

Malcolm Armsteen wrote:

bluebellnutter wrote:

Same with Al Murray, indeed the "pub landlord" character is done as a complete send-up of the people who laud it.

Do they know that? I remember Harry Enfield saying that he killed off Loadsamoney because people liked him for what he was, rather than as a satire. I think the same thing applies to Murray. I also don't think either has ever been funny.

Anecdotally, I had that conversation in relation to Al Murray only a couple of week's ago with my idiot neighbour. He point blank refused to believe me when I told him that Murray is 'posh'; Public school, Oxford graduate, son of a Lieutenant Colonel & a descendant of William Makepeace Thackeray (I had to explain who Thackeray was).

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

cf. Jamie Oliver. So many people refuse to belive he is a posh boy with an act.

Alf Garnett - I've met people who just didn't realise he was the butt of the joke and thought he was the last defender of Zzzzzzzzzz........

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:35 am

See also Jones, Liz...

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:36 am

Gourami wrote:

Alf Garnett - I've met people who just didn't realise he was the butt of the joke and thought he was the last defender of Zzzzzzzzzz........

Indeed. that was my point.

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

I know, I liked it so much I wanted in on it.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:38 am

Clarkson can time a joke and coin a phrase. He was, as far as I can remember, the first person to do the "informed joke" treatment of cars. Like Bill Bryson with travel, Martin Johnson with cricket, Harry Pearson with football.

It's wearing very thin now though. Just being offensive.

Shame because when he doesn't piss about, he can be very good. He'd be ideal for the BBC semi-heavyweight documentaries (ones on BBC1 rather than BBC4, like David Dimbleby does). Anyone else see his Brunel?

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:38 am

Evidently.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:42 am

Clarkson's piece on IK Brunel was an indication that he is a talented broadcaster and can produce good stuff. If he'd just give up trying to be the great un-PC clown we'd probably all love him as we do Attenborough. [irony].

oboogie · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:49 am

Clarkson did a brilliant programme about holders of the VC a few years ago (his father in law was one). He was respectful and gave over a real sense of awe of these extraordinary people.
He's a bright man who has learnt that playing the clown is where the money is.

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

oboogie wrote:

He's a bright man who has learnt that playing the clown is where the money is.

spoonman · **Joined:** Tue May 11, 2010 2:27 pm **Posts:** 896

The whole thing on the One Show is JC gone mad :mrgreen:

Big Rob · **Posted:** Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:24 am

I think the Unions should drop the shit against Clarkson, so they don't fall to the level of the outrage that hounded Ross and Brand (yes I think they were in the wrong but apologize and move on).

Clarkson made an extreme joke that was clearly not meant to be taken seriously, which he does all the time. It was ill informed however if we get everyone to apologize for making ill informed remarks....

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