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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:44 pm 
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It seems to be the way of this government.

Leak a story along the lines of 'Ministers are considering...blah'. If s hitstorm doesnt rise up, then it becaomes 'Senior ministers are considering blah'.

Then someone actually puts there name to it, but only in the form of an aspiration, generally in a speech to a tame audience. As long as the waters are still calm it may eventually be announced by Cameron, and then, maybe get put before parliament.

Its policy making by focus group gone mad. Where's the leadership? Where's the 'We beleive in X, and therefore intend to do it'?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:18 pm 
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Justine Greening has a knack for coming across as a shifty little bastard, regardless of the topic. Also, on the news yesterday she managed to treat winter weather arriving in winter to a hearty dose of business school speak, "Going forward in Q1 we can anticipate further snow falls, etc". All she had to do was show up and say, "We're clearing the roads and have enough salt".


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Justine Greening has a knack for coming across as a shifty little bastard, regardless of the topic. Also, on the news yesterday she managed to treat winter weather arriving in winter to a hearty dose of business school speak, "Going forward in Q1 we can anticipate further snow falls, etc". All she had to do was show up and say, "We're clearing the roads and have enough salt".


Greening's attempts to wheedle out of doing anything about Network Rail bonuses have been embarrassing and symptomatic of this government's continuing reluctance to take responsibility on executive pay. They're caught between two stools - whilst their instinct is to let their cronies continue their looting unabated, they don't want to lose ground to Labour's (admittedly vague) talk of 'predator capitalism'. Interestingly, NR bosses have become the latest to turn their bonuses down, which suggests Ed Miliband is at least making some headway on this issue.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Adding Justine Greening to the pile.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:42 pm 
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It's amazing how many times someone can ignore a question and replace any valid answer with guff about "tax payers and fare payers"


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About the only one I'd leave out of the race is Ken Clarke. And that's not because he's any good, it's because the others' stupidity is such that they'd have an unfair advantage.


Unfortunately, I think your generosity is misplaced.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/feb/ ... ice-courts

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Ministers and the intelligence services will be able to cover up sensitive information relating to the state's complicity in torture and secret rendition, under controversial plans likely to be included in the Queen's Speech in May.

Sources at the Ministry of Justice say the plans, first outlined in a green paper in October last year, are likely to be included in a justice bill in the next session of parliament in a move that critics say will fundamentally undermine Britain's tradition of open justice.

The plan could mean that so-called closed material procedures - in which secret evidence is withheld from the claimant and the press in a closed court - would be introduced more widely into civil law. This would allow the government or its agencies to defend serious allegations knowing that damaging information would never emerge.

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A response to the green paper from Guardian News and Media, owners of this newspaper, says Kenneth Clarke's proposal would have a serious impact on the judicial process, court reporting and public interest journalism. Closed hearings, secret evidence and secret pleadings and judgments will result in the indefinite removal of information from the public domain.


'Libertarian' Tories showing their true colours once again. Remember when they used to lay into New Labour over civil liberties? I wonder whether we can expect David Davis to resign over this. Somehow I suspect not.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:37 am 
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Warsi romps home with the prize.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/fe ... lady-warsi

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"For me one of the most worrying aspects about this militant secularisation is that at its core and in its instincts it is deeply intolerant. It demonstrates similar traits to totalitarian regimes – denying people the right to a religious identity because they were frightened of the concept of multiple identities."


Ever heard about Franco's Spain? Plenty of religion in that fascism. And secularism isn't intolerant of religion. It just doesn't want it appropriating more and more public space. Which is what it's doing with Academies.

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"Too often there is suspicion of faith in our continent hinging on a basic misconception – that to create equality and space for minorities we need to erase our religious heritage," she will say.


Pure Daily Mail. There are some lefties wot hate Christianity because it's offensive to ethnics.

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She will argue "people need to feel stronger in their religious identities, more confident in their beliefs". While individuals should not dilute their nations, nor should nations deny their religious heritages.


So those empty pews are down to a lack of confidence, are they?


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That she's whining to the Vatican about religious intolerance might actually be the death of irony

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I see they mentioned that she is the first female Muslim minister. She must be shocked...they forgot to mention that she's the child of immigrants and grew up in working-class Yorkshire.


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As my twittering friend James Cook points out today, "confidence" is the very last thing you want certain people of faith to have, especially the kind of confidence that makes you sure that 72 virgins await your martyrdom in paradise.

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Warsi is to cultured debate what the fat lad with glasses is to playground football.
You feel relieved when you learn she's playing against you.


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That she's whining to the Vatican about religious intolerance might actually be the death of irony


Quite.

Has she squawked like a parrot stuck on repeat about it all being the fault of the mess the pagans left us in yet?

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The thing is I'm not a hardcore secularist in the French tradition. I don't want pointless stigmatising of Muslims wearing veils, or bollocks bans on burqhas (which mysteriously don't apply to Saudi oilmen and their wives). I'd happily give money to some black people to put on a play about the Windrush, or fund an appropriate Muslim group to deal with the special challenges of alcoholism in a culture where people don't usually drink. And I'll pay for someone to get white,black and Asian boys to play football together.

It's the Tories' policy I object too. They're not just hypocritical, they're far worse than the people they're attacking.


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fuck me, Channel 4 News have got a bunch of religious leaders.

Christian woman is a real "we need to be more confident", "there is a feeling that..." bore.

The Muslim and Jewish guys were much more reasonable.

The Christian went on about some people being turned down for grants because they were religious. She didn't mention people being turned down for school places because they weren't religious.


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Grant Shapps: still utterly inept.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... employment

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The number of people officially classed as homeless in England has jumped by 14% – the biggest increase for nine years – as what charities have described as a "perfect storm" of rising repossession rates and unemployment drives thousands more families into temporary accommodation.

Across England, 48,510 households were accepted as homeless by local authorities in 2011, according to figures published by the Department for Communities and Local Government on Thursday.

The data shows 69,460 children or expected children are in homeless households, with three-quarters of the households accepted containing children.

Homelessness had been going down since 2003, with a small increase in 2010, and the scale of this rise has shocked housing campaigners.


Note that last sentence. But wait - it's all Labour's fault.

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But the housing minister, Grant Shapps, said the figures were still half the average rate seen under Labour and blamed "the debt-laden economy we inherited [which] is leaving a legacy of hard-up households across the country".

He said the government had made an extra £70m available to councils in the past year to assist households facing the prospect of homelessness.

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The figures come days after official statistics showed the number of rough sleepers in England had gone up by one-fifth.

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