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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:34 pm 
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'Your concern about being shamed in your community was greater than the love for your daughter,' judge tells Shafilea Ahmed's murdering parents as he jails them both for life

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z22UeX8563

Here we go, the old headline is still in the URL mentioning the lovely and unhelpful term 'honour killing'. The comments are typically Mailite
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If they are so loyal to their family in Pakistan then perhaps they should go back there and save us the cost of locking them up for the next 20 years.

- Steve Goodwin, Reigate, Mozamabique, 3/8/2012 13:25 1453

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Perhaps their sentence is too 'Westernised', maybe stoning would be more appropriate? I hope your time in jail is a living hell !

- Lost For Words, Gloucester, England, 3/8/2012 13:25 1183

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Evil parents, I hope they go to prison for a long time. Thank goodness mine were not from this sort of culture. I wouldn't wish parents like this on my worst enemy.

- polly, uk, 3/8/2012 13:22 532

Ah, your culture eh? Because white parents don't murder their children of course.

Some good background reading:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/0 ... f-violence
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... l-to-trial
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/0 ... lty-murder
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -have.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:13 pm 
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It's not just about murder though. Newsnight talked about high suicides among South Asian teenagers the other night, and there seems to be big problems with self-harm and depression too.

It's a leap to say these are all down to the sort of culture clash in this case, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't a factor.


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Racist ex-soldier admits tying pig's head to mosque gates and daubing offensive graffiti in attack on Muslims

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So this guy is racist but Mulims burning poppies and shouting at dead soldiers coffins are "protesting"

- Ash, Scotland, 9/8/2012 20:04 154

You see there is a difference between spraying racist graffiti and the act of burning a poppy made out of paper right? Soldiers aren't a race. Are you really that stupid?

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I'm not condoning the former soldier's behaviour at all. Before you label him as a "racist" please give some thought to what this man has been through recently. Shot at, blown up, friends blown to pieces and killed…… "A racist" is a very quick, easy and predictable label. My grandfather wasn't so keen on Germans. Nor was he keen on the Japanese (or the French). Was he a racist too??

- Me, from this once green and pleasant land, 9/8/2012 21:34 103

Well you are though, if you bothered to read into the case, Mr Parkes left the army in 1993 after serving in Northern Ireland. His solicitor claims he suffers from PTSD which was never treated.

As the prosecution point out:

Sharon Jomaal, prosecuting, said: "He left a severed pig's head with Allah written along the side which was attached the front gate." She said he also wrote a racist slur in red spray paint along the front of the mosque. Parkes later posted a picture of himself at the scene on Facebook.

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/ ... story.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:35 am 
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If 'Me's' grandfather hated the French, having fought with rather than against them then he might have been subjected to ill-treatment at their hands, but most likely he was yet another old racist bastard*.


*Unless he was 200 years old and fought at Waterloo...

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My grandfather didn't like the French. He reckoned they were dirty buggers and you could smell their trenches from a mile off. You also couldn't rely on them when positioned on your flank either.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:45 am 
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Funnily enough, they said the same about him...

Serious historical note - a lot of Tommies compared the French trenches unfavourably to their own and those of the Boche. This was due to the perception of each force of their rôle in the war, to the French they were a very temporary defence against an invading force, and should be left as soon as possible - a 'field' solution. To the Germans they were a strategic military border and intended to be much more permanent. To the Tommies they just were.

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No man's land: Women-only city planned for Saudi Arabia to allow more and more females to pursue a career

Gender inequalities — such an issue for the Daily Mail — again used as a stick to bash the Muzzies.

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But despite some progress, women's rights in Saudi Arabia are still defined by Islam and lack basic freedoms found in many Western cultures.

Or indeed in many Muslim cultures. But let's not complicate.

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How sad to be born into a religion that is still living in the dark ages and discriminates against women!!

- EnglandandStGeorge , Derby, 12/8/2012 8:07 Rating 886

Quite unlike the religion of St George, with all its women bishops.


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How sad to be reading a paper that is still living in the dark ages and discriminates against women!!


Fixed that for you, "England".

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:20 pm 
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How sad to be born into a religion that is still living in the dark ages and discriminates against women!!

- EnglandandStGeorge , Derby, 12/8/2012 8:07 Rating 886




Well the UK still discriminates against women......

Gender pay gap widens to £10,500 for managers, CMI says


All 'EnglandansStGeorge' has highlighted is that the West has, arguably, progressed further than some muslim cultures.. (We can chew the fat over a comparison of womens' rights in Turkey, for example, and the UK but that's not the point.)

However that still leaves the question what are we progressing towards? (Although conservatives often try to distort progression and present it as regression and also claim shit like hard hit employers should not be forced to give equal pay under such dire economic conditions, that the conservatives create).....

The fact remains that neither UK culture nor muslim culture has reached its destination in terms of equality. (No I don't mean that everyone has equal abilities rather that everyone should receive equal treatment before a right winger tries on that old chestnut of dogshit).

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Muslim Brotherhood has 'started crucifying opponents of new President', claims website
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... bsite.html
Evidence? None.

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Muslim Brotherhood has 'started crucifying opponents of new President', claims website
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... bsite.html
Evidence? None.


As has been pointed out by several (red arrowed) posters.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:03 am 
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I suppose this fits into more than one topic.
I couldn't find the longest headline one so I've posted it here.
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Revealed: We find the twin brother Mo Farah was forced to abandon as a child in war-torn Somalia and he tells the harrowing story of how they were separated aged eight by their parents' agonising decision
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z23wu2k6bE

Mo must be a real bastard for abandoning his twin brother to get a "normal" life. After all Thatcher abandoned her greengrocer family. And look where she ended up. He must be one evil bastard.


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And people ask me why I hate the Mail.

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 Post subject: Re: Tha Mail & Muslims
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:11 am 
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I thinkthis analysis of Anders Breivik's philosophy is important, for no other reason than this paragraph:

Daniel Tilling wrote:
A threat to ethnic purity; betrayal by corrupt elites; the presence of a foreign invader – these are familiar themes for the far right. But the ideology of the “counter-jihad” movement marks a shift from neo-Nazism, whose followers believe above all in the international Jewish conspiracy – and that immigration is a Jewish-led plot to dilute European racial stock.

The difference here is that Breivik’s themes have widespread mainstream credibility. Islamophobia is rampant across western Europe, while Britain’s press leads the field with its drip-feed of anti-Muslim coverage.

Even the idea of “cultural Marxism” has found its way into the mainstream, dovetailing with right-wing ideologues who would have us believe that liberal elites have foisted their agenda on an unwilling population. In the US, it was promoted by the likes of the late commentator Andrew Breitbart, while here it has been echoed by conservatives. Last September, the writer James Delingpole claimed that the BBC had fallen victim to a Marxist “plan to destroy western civilisation from within”. Earlier this month, a Daily Mail blogger even suggested that the New Statesman’s founders, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, were dedicated to the “destruction of traditional western civilisation” and that the London School of Economics, which they also founded, was a nest of Frankfurt-style subversion.


Everything connects. Dacre's Drip is poisonous, and will in time be deadly.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:32 pm 
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That's a bang-on analysis. Think I'll be getting Tilling's book next month.

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