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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:34 pm 
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Re: the camera thing - speeding motorists are criminals surely? I wasn't aware that cars magically made things not criminal, I'll have to drive over people more often.


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Only the Mail could pull off such a stunt.. Only this pathetic pile of cow shit that is a very poor excuse for journalism could turn what is a nice happy-ending success story and a good thing into leverage to bash someone.


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Last night, Jordon's mother Tracy Ganderton praised Mrs Haynes and Miss Scott, saying: "I wish the PCSOs who failed to help Jordon could have acted in the same way."

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Mrs Ganderton said: "If someone's drowning, it's a natural human instinct to jump in the water to help whether you're a PCSO, police officer or member of the public. Those two women helped that lady because they followed their instinct.

"They broke the rules of their job by going in the water. But are they going to be sacked? No, they should be hailed as heroes."


You, Mrs Ganderton, are a hypocrite!
You were demanding they all be scrapped before. Now you say these two should be hailed as heroes.

This is why when people who are emotionally involved, they're statements shouldn't be taken seriously.

And yes, it's "natural human instinct" to try to help someone in need, but that doesn't make it safe, wise or a good idea. I wouldn't have jumped into that lake (it wasn't a pond), and I'm not sure I'd have jumped into a canal tbh.

And then there's the Mail.. can you imagine when this news came into the office. Orgasms all round and quick! someone get Ganderton's phone number out so we can rub her face in her son's death and get a quote from her to further promote our bashing.


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Mrs Haynes, 54, and Miss Scott, 21, spotted the woman gasping for breath as they walked along the Grand Union Canal in Watford yesterday afternoon.

A canal isn't a lake the size of a football field. They also knew exactly where she was, which wasn't the case in Jordan's case.
Oh yes, directly comparable story then.


Incredible. I was full of praise over the Autistic story but when they print biased bullshit like this I'm reminded of my contempt for this rag.


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Oi journos, PROOF READ YOUR CUNTING OUTPUT

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The woman, who had been reported missing from a local hospital, was taken by ambulance to Watford General Hospihertal. She was suffering from cold but otherwise unharmed. She was later detained under the Mental Health Act.


Christ Almighty are you so desperate to get your hatred out that you can't even take 10 secs to run a fucking spell checker?


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The Blunkett Bobbies who DID dive to the rescue

yes to add to whats been said..this is a classic quote....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

Their actions come weeks after the controversy over two other PCSOs, who failed to go to the rescue of ten-year-old Jordon Lyon after they saw him drowning in a lake.

saw him drowning in a lake eh...jesus total lie..


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This is what happens when well intentioned but untrained people try a rescue,

Holiday Britons drown trying to save their children near Madeleine resort

I have tried to look up the resort of Madeleine on Multi-map but cannot find it.

Truly tragic event.


What has happened to the Mail comments? Has there been a Dacre decree?


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Holiday Britons drown trying to save their children near Madeleine resort



Gordon Bennett, how desperate to get a Madeleine link into the story! I'm not sure it needs it. Is Madeleine going to be mentioned whenever something happens to a Brit in Portugal?


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ironic seeing that that is probably what happened to her


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Back to the PSCO story (it really got me riled)

They still haven't corrected the hospihertal typo.

Naturally almost all the comments are slagging off the PSCOs in Jordan's case. Even they couldn't give a shit about these two or the woman that drowned.

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So what excuse do the ones who didn't jump in for the boy have now?!

- Mark, Harrogate

Yes mark because that's how it works. Two PSCOs save one person therefore the other two must have done. THEY AREN'T COMPARABLE EVENTS.

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Hear, hear - we commend these two coppers! Who most probably will be sacked for not following procedures!

- Loris, Milan

GAH CUNTY CUNTY TWAT MORON CUNT!


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Here in France any one who does not help another person would be prosecuted and rightly so. Wake up England the PCSOs and the senior Police Officers should all be prosecuted. What has happened to England?

- Martin, Josselin, France

Really? If you didn't risk yourself by jumping into a murky pond to try to save someone you can't see who's probably already dead then you'd be prosecuted? REALLY??


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I hope they filled in the necessary paperwork before diving in.

- Guy Fawkes, Britain

haaaaaaahahahahahahaha haaaaaaa hahahaha. You're so funny.


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PCSO's or not, decency was all it took, even if they failed. Well done girls.

- Peter, Aberdeen

Decency yes. Daring to not (possibly) risk your life - yeah that's just indecent.
Of course since you were there on the scene you're fully aware that it was practically risk free. Oh wait, no you weren't. So what the fuck do you know about whether it was just too dangerous or not.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... rtComments

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Just goes to show you what happens when untrained people go in the water to try and save someone - tragedy.

- Ellen Smith, Medway Kent




oooooooooh!

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Doesn't this show the dangers of entering waters in unsafe conditions? This is tragic of course but it could also have been the fate of the two PCSOs who refrained from entering unknown water to rescue someone they couldn't actually see.

- Bill, Cwmbran, S.Wales



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I agree with the sentiment of what's being said but..

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Just goes to show you what happens when untrained people go in the water to try and save someone - tragedy.

- Ellen Smith, Medway Kent

What can happen, CAN happen.
Why do Mail readers feel the need to generalise everything?
Two PSCOs don't save someone therefore they should all be scrapped.
Two other PSCOs do save someone therefore they're all great (except the other two of course).
One rescue is successful therefore they all will be.
Another rescue is unsuccessful therefore they'll all fail.

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Doesn't this show the dangers of entering waters in unsafe conditions? This is tragic of course but it could also have been the fate of the two PCSOs who refrained from entering unknown water to rescue someone they couldn't actually see.

- Bill, Cwmbran, S.Wales

"Could have been". THANK YOU Bill. A good comment that's sensible and reasonable.


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Met Chief says sorry after de Menezes guilty verdict - but REFUSES to resign <== original title
A man without honour - Police chief Sir Ian Blair's defiance <== current title.

The Mail and it's readers are furious.

I have my own views on the whole episode, but they're based on very limited knowledge of what happened and I don't really have the energy to read a credible source, so I just have one question.

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Everyone walks free and the taxpayer pays.

- John, Cheshire

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So we can expect our council tax to go up to pay for it all.

- Ron, Kent

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It's the taxpayers who have been fined, not individuals.

- Alonso, Merseyside UK

Doesn't that fine go to the government? If so it's more of a balance transfer.


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It's anti-PCSO time,

Community police officers caught 'hiding behind a tree' while girls beat up 55-year-old

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

The Mail seems intent to create an urban myth by frequently undermining PCSOs.


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I wonder if one of us could email the Mail, make up any anti-PSCO story and actually get it printed.


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It's highly possible


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This has not shown up in the Mail yet

Officer hurt in hit-and-run crash
A police community support officer (PCSO) has been seriously injured in a hit-and-run crash while investigating complaints of drug dealing


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7082242.stm


Obviously something as trivial as this is not worth bringing to the attention of Mail readers.

They deserve to know about this instead

Pensioner hurled slugs over neighbours' fence in year-long war over garden trellis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770


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