Scotland bashing

Arnold · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:33 pm

The problems will start when the Former United Kingdom wants its own suffix.

Arnold · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:28 pm

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The Romans assaulted Scotland with a larger force than they used to hold ALL of England and Wales - but still failed to subdue savage tribesmen

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z1r6pP4hcI

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I would say that 90 percent of Scots that I have met are very aggressive people.I would not want to live amongst the Scots.I am Northern English and a Celt [Pronounced "Cunt".]

- Owen Reed, Middlesbrough, 4/4/2012 21:47 9

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I think that the best way to revive the Economy is to rebuild Hadrians Wall.

- Owen Reed, Middlesbrough, 4/4/2012 22:08
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ezinra · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2012 9:36 pm

Benefits capital of Britain: The Glasgow neighbourhood where nine out of ten people are on welfare

The headline says nine out of ten. The intro says:

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almost nine-out-ten [sic] working-age people in one deprived area of Glasgow are claiming benefits.

The next paragraph states:

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Astonishing figures from the Department of Work and Pensions reveal 85 per cent of working age adults in Bridgeton, in the city's impoverished east end, are claiming some kind of welfare payment.

By the time I got to paragraph 19, I was expecting the figure to be negative.

Arnold · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2012 10:02 pm

No posts yet. I'm sure someone will mention Hadrian's Wall soon.

Althea · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2012 10:24 pm

And - of course - it doesn't seem to elaborate beyond "benefits".

Aren't most people in receipt of some kind of benefit?

storygirl · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2012 11:51 pm

Althea wrote:

And - of course - it doesn't seem to elaborate beyond "benefits".

Aren't most people in receipt of some kind of benefit?

Yup...its one of those terms the mail loves, whilst omitting to mention things like Child Benefit and working family tax credit.

Arnold · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 10:51 am

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New Scottish school curriculum teaches students Britain is an ‘arch-imperialist villain’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1vJ84GUr4

ezinra · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 11:09 am

The quote in the headline does not, of course, come from the curriculum. It comes from one of the history teachers who opposes it:

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He said the ‘flash of tartan and cries of “Freedom” will attract students to some of the Scottish units in National 5’.

But he added: ‘The British history units pale into dry, boring insignificance against this populist history. Indeed, many units portray Britain as the consistent arch-imperialist villain of the piece.’

Without seeing the curriculum it's impossible to say whether this is fair. However, it's not hard to accept that Britain has been an 'arch-imperialist' power ever since the act of union. I'm not unfriendly to the idea that imperialism did more harm than good. My main concern is that politicians should keep their own prejudices out of the history curriculum, whether they be SNP or Pob or whoever.

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Mr McLennan said the make-up of the Great War courses will focus mainly on the role of Scots.

What's wrong with that? British courses focus mainly on the role of Britons, French history emphasises the French — in the international context of the war, of course. Should British students learn more about Verdun and less about the Somme? Or read Duhamel instead of Wilfred Owen?

Arnold · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 11:25 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances
It's no surprise that there is some lingering ill-feeling. I feel it, and I'm not Scottish.

davidjay · **Joined:** Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:24 pm **Posts:** 3823

Campaign for Real Education. I think we can guess where they're coming from.

satnav · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 12:21 pm

This comment seems to be getting lots of green arrows.

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History should be about just telling the truth. That is it. End of.
- Pods , Podland , 19/5/2012 10:28
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And of course you always find the truth in the Mail.

I love the way they have used a picture of Australian Mel Gibson to illustrate this story.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 12:23 pm

And despite the fact that all historians spend their entire lives trying (without expecting to succeed) to find out what the truth is.

storygirl · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Malcolm Armsteen wrote:

And despite the fact that all historians spend their entire lives trying (without expecting to succeed) to find out what the truth is.

And it seems my philosophy degree was a waste oof time too. Although I suppose the average Mailite thinks that already

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 4:21 pm

Depends on whether or not you think of it as a process or a train ride.

oboogie · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 4:46 pm

satnav wrote:

I love the way they have used a picture of Australian Mel Gibson to illustrate this story.

Starring in a film which is infamous as a travesty of historical fact.
BBC History magazine did a feature on historical inaccuracies in cinema, Braveheart was voted top by their panel of historians.
There are numerous well known falsehoods but my favourite is that Princess Isabella, the Princess of Wales, is depicted in the film as a fully-grown woman. It is hinted at that Edward III might have been the love-child of Wallace. In fact, at the time, she was only nine years old and living in France and did not arrive in England until after Wallace had been executed in 1305.

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