The Mail & Climate Change

Big Rob · **Posted:** Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:49 pm

Arctic sea ice could disappear within 10 years as global warming increases speed of melting.

Oh the comments....

Paul · **Posted:** Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:14 pm

Arctic ice reaches record low as it shrinks to just HALF the size it was in the 1980s

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z272xeJWfX

Quote:

It is amazing that despite the evidence, people still deny rapid change is happening.

- Anne , West Midlands EU, 60

sabre_chilli · **Posted:** Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:46 am

This link was posted on a tech blog that I read regularly. I was surprised to see it there, but happy, that once again, they were being called on the crap they write.

http://sargasso.nl/daily-mail-manipulates-graph-to-suggest-stopped-global-warming/

Big Rob · **Posted:** Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:31 pm

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, Met Office report reveals: MoS got it right about warming... so who are the 'deniers' now?

Ooh I don't know who are the deniers?

A real climate scientist wrote:

Of course, the warming trend keeps going up whilst natural variability just oscillates irregularly up and down, so over longer periods the warming trend wins and natural variability cancels out.

Hence....

I wonder who's trying to spin the illusion? I wonder who is actually in denial?

Oh and apparently the mail is falsifying their data..... surprise, surprise.....

Link

Silkyman · **Joined:** Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 am **Posts:** 763

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... onths.html

The backlash against anything 'eco' comes under this heading.

What probably happened is that the resident's didn't realise they needed to do thinkgs like keep their windows closed.

Esqui · **Posted:** Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:49 pm

I just love this picture:

Says it all really

Matt · **Joined:** Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:47 pm **Posts:** 43

Or not realising Air/Ground source heating does require a fair amount of power

Paul · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:16 pm

Cryosat spots Arctic sea-ice loss in autumn

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21437680

I doubt if this will reach the Mail.

Here could be the opportunity to mention it.

Warnings of severe water shortages in the Middle East after satellites show freshwater reserves the size of the Dead Sea have dried up

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z2Kp94QKX2

Silkyman · **Joined:** Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 am **Posts:** 763

I know this story has been done elsewhere, but one line fits in here.

Quote:

so-called 'eco-home'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2LozJQ8bg

Esqui · **Posted:** Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:38 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof-finally-shows-global-warming-forecasts-costing-billions-WRONG-along.html

First sentence:

Quote:

No, the world ISN'T getting warmer (as you may have noticed).

Their evidence:

That rather looks to me like it is getting warmer.

Silkyman · **Joined:** Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 am **Posts:** 763

It 'crashed out' of the pink in the 70's too... How did that work out?

Looks to me that if it continues at it's current rate, it might JUST skim out of the graph briefly, but light just as easily spike upwards.

So the article is really 'if temperatures drop in the next couple of years, then the predictions are wrong'

But 'Prediction will be wrong if it doesn't come true' isn't a headline.

Kreuzberger · **Posted:** Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:32 pm

So the black line loses temporary momentum at times of unforeseen crisis, industrial output slows and the pattern deviates from the path that had all-things-being-equal factored in. That should be no surprise to anyone, surely.

I am not a so-called climatologist. Perhaps someone on here can correct me if I am being over-simplistic.

DTR · **Posted:** Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:47 pm

Kreuzberger wrote:

So the black line loses temporary momentum at times of unforeseen crisis, industrial output slows and the pattern deviates from the path that had all-things-being-equal factored in. That should be no surprise to anyone, surely.

I am not a so-called climatologist. Perhaps someone on here can correct me if I am being over-simplistic.

I would say the explanation is possibly more simple. Just a cluster of outliers these can be seen at plant of points in the past both above and below 75% interval. If we where to cut the graph off at what looks to be 1981-2 then we could draw the conclusion that warming is above predicted levels.

satnav · **Posted:** Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:00 am

Good article in the Guardian rebutting the great green con article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/20/response-mail-on-sunday-great-green-con-climate-change

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