Haha, I am in fact originally from Caergybi (Holyhead to those who don't speak the language of the angels). I've never smelted anything in my life though...or at least nothing I'm telling you lot about

Prisoners AND immigrants today. Double score.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Just when you think the mail can't possibly get any worse, they manage to dig that pit just a little bit deeper.

Excellent slapdown on this topic in the Prisoner on Facebook story -




But naturally it has brought the gits out, of which this is only one of many -



But he seems to ignore the heroes unlawfully locked up by NuLiebore's Stasi police for speeding or for giving feral council estate chav immigrant children a clip round the ear for terrorising British war heroes.

Or not paying their council tax?

Exactamundo.

Hang on. Isn't facebook evil, to be igno.... oh wait, it said something the mail wanted to hear, therefore it's a perfectly valid source.

I wonder if they take lessons in hypocrisy, or if it just comes naturally.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -work.html

Prisoners should get £12,000 a year to work full-time, says Ken Clarke

Only allowed to keep £20 p/w though.



No comments yet. They'll probably overlook that bit.

(James Slack wrote that. The minimum wage went up to £5.93 p/h from Oct 1st. Slack by name....).

Heard this this morning, and wondered about the details.
The main one being, what type of work will they be doing.

If we go down he traditional route, that's a lot of mailbags sewn, ditches dug and farm animals tended.
But if these aren't to be non-jobs what's in demand at the moment.
A quick browse of the sits vac reveals a lot of call for:

Delivery drivers: But I don't see middle England happy about having the lags loose on the roads.
Carers for Children and Elderly: Full disclosure required.
Skilled tradesmen: To work in people's houses.
Motor Mechanics:
Catering Staff: Tempted to recycle the "Lambeth Garage Poisoners" line form not the nine O'clock news.

These all require a degree of trust that's liable to generate more resistance than support.


I also wonder whether his wil generate the next great Lie of the right.
Something along the lines of: "Forrins coming over here and doing crimes so they get given a job. They only keep 20 quid a week, but they're millionaires when they get back to Poland".

The Howard League want this to happen, which is a good omen.
It seems that the Labour government, for some reason I don't fathom, was against it.

I assume that companies (or SERCO/Capita et al) will be invited to invest in facilities in or near prisons. I know that Screwfix already do this, in a limited way.

Looks like a good idea to me.

how they going to stop the cons just running off or goin down the pub?

I think the key word is 'prison'.

they can't do the jobs bonesey suggested in prison, mate.

no it's just too impractical.

1) I'm not your 'mate'.
2) The Caps key is at the left of the keyboard, second row up.

I expect this sort of thing passes for humour somewhere...

For the record, if you want to auto-ignore a member, just click the profile button on any of their posts (bottom left hand corner), then add them as a foe. Job done

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To get back to the point, as far as I am aware for 'open' prisoners there is already a work option, and this will extend the hours per week. That is a positive - it gets people into the work ethos, and gives some self-respect, as long as the jobs are real.

For secure prisoners there will have to be some sort of new structures inside or adjacent to prisons, which given that so many are overcrowded Victorian designs, intended for a very different sort of incarceration experience, may well be a problem.

Of course, if companies were to build new prisons, with their manufacturing or assembly plants included that could well be a win-win.

As far as I understand the proposals the prisoners would earn the minimum wage, but a large part would be sequestered for compensation for victims and so on.

I really can't see anything wrong with the idea.