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 Post subject: The Mail vs Science!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:26 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224858/Yes-scientists-good-But-country-run-arrogant-gods-certainty-truly-hell-earth.html

Blimey, the Mail have actually declared war against scientists! This is shockingly arrogant and illogical even by Mail standards. Not to mention a massive violation of Godwin’s law.

The comments are cracking though. I can't find a single one in favor of the article!


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'Arrogant gods of certainty'? Invoking the Spanish Inquisition? Bloody hell, did someone turn back the clock to 1500 while I wasn't looking?


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It gets worse, apparently an earlier version of the article came complete with a picture of Hitler himself. Needless to say it got pulled sharpish.


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Ah yes, ignorant mail "journalists" that can hardly string a sentence together versus people that are experts in their field.

Why anyone would choose to believe these "so called scientists" (see what I did there ?) over the trail blazing mail writers is beyond me.


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The trouble with a 'scientific' argument, of course, is that it is not made in the real world, but in a laboratory by an unimaginative academic relying solely on empirical facts.

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A raging imagination - that's what you really need in a lab when researching, oh I don't know, fission . And why rely on facts when a quick google can bring up a nice "source" you can manipulate into fitting your argument. Facts just get in the way


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The trouble with a 'scientific' argument, of course, is that it is not made in the real world, but in a laboratory by an unimaginative academic relying solely on empirical facts.

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Yes. Quite.
Relying on facts, tut, tut. I mean how restrictive would that be?
A Daily Mail journo can only imagine I suppose.


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There's a very telling critique of AN Wilson's article on Steve Novella's Neurologica blog, here.

Well worth your time.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Science!
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It seems that the Turin Shroud may have been a fake all along - who'd a thought, eh?

Garbled Mail story here

The comments are almost unbelievable in places...

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And they're not moderated! Nooooooooooooo!!!


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You can make your own Turin Shroud. Simply don't wash and don't change your bedding for a few months. Hey Presto! Your bottom sheet will look like a shroud.
- Bert Baxter, Worcs, UK, 17/12/2009 8:13


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Lost city of Atlantis discovered? Grainy images show city-like formations at the bottom of the Caribbean

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... n-Sea.html


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Science!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246775/Doctor-centre-MMR-controversy-failed-duties-responsible-consultant-rules-GMC.html

I’m wondering how the Mail plan to spin this one?

Personally I'm pleased as punch that this quack is getting his comeuppance.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Science!
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A lot of the comments are actually backing the MMR which is interesting. This guy is probably about right though, but we'll see once people get home from work and start posting:

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Cue tides of anti-vaxers and their internet acquired scientific knowledge.......
- ZedsDeadBed, Truro, UK, 28/1/2010 15:53
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:D

Starts off fairly sensibly, until the bit I put in bold...

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I watched an interview with this guy and he during that particular interview, he never told people to stop using the MMR. As I remember it he asked for 2 things:

1) Clinical research be carried out, instead of relying just on statistical research.
2) Let those parents who preferred the single jabs (privately?) be allowed to have them.

My children had the MMR even after I watched this programme. He didn't put me off. All he'd said was that he'd sat with parents who were convinced that the MMR had caused their children's autism and he felt that their concerns were worthy of investigation.

It was the govt's overbearing threatening reaction and subsequent witch hunt of Dr Wakefield that made people mistrust the MMR.

Most of all Tony Blair's refusal to say whether Leo had had the MMR was a key factor.

Citing family privacy is ok for things he left to individual choice, but not for something he was bullying everybody else into.
- isabella, london, 28/1/2010 15:59
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Whaaa?!


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Science!
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Lucius AR:

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I’m wondering how the Mail plan to spin this one?


Here's how:

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Today's ruling will fuel fears that Dr Wakefield has been the victim of a sustained witch-hunt


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-GMC.html


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