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Well quite - it's us as adults who sexualise it. The dominant culture of beauty decrees that females should be scantily clad, permatanned and wear loads of makeup, therefore that's what little girls also aspire to look like (although of course they don't understand the sexual implications of it) - it's always been like that though, I remember as a ten year old in the early 80s wearing a black mini skirt, bright yellow top, yellow tights, crimped hair and terrible eyeshadow (once my mum wasn't looking) in an attempt to emulate some pop star or other, then strutting through town thinking I was the bee's knees (appropriately, as I looked like a giant bee) only to be brought up short by a couple of older lads, probably about 20 or so, shouting 'Oy, are you on the game?' I had no real idea what that meant but I knew it wasn't good. But any sexual effect or connotations of what I was wearing totally passed me by, as I was 10 and it was fashion.


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The Mail's removed the story about the "primary school prom queens". I wonder if they got intro trouble for it?


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The Mail's removed the story about the "primary school prom queens". I wonder if they got intro trouble for it?


There was an 'l' missing off the end of the url:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... -tans.html


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And here's the just desserts:

Teenage girl 'gang raped' in horror attack on playing field after school prom


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Another story from Diana Appleyard, who also penned this:

"I am urgently looking for anonymous horror stories of people who have employed Eastern European staff, only for them to steal from them, disappear, or have lied about their resident status. We can pay you ?100 for taking part, and I promise it will be anonymous, just a quick phone call. Could you email me asap? Many thanks, Diana"


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1203094/Would-YOU-steal-lock-childs-hair-test-drugs-This-father-did-.html

If the Government did this it would be NANNY STATE GET AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN!!!!1!!
But cus it's a parent, it's all good.
Bit bemused by the hypocrisy of the dad being angry that his son might be taking drugs behind his back(which he isn't) that he goes behind his back to do the test.

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James's fears for his son had been unfounded, although his cousin, Matt, did test positive for marijuana.
Now James faced a modern dilemma. How would he tell Matt's parents that their son had gone off the rails?


He hasn't gone off the rails, he smokes weed, a ridiculous proportion of the world's population do it.


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His evidence for believing his son was taking drugs:
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Their 14-year-old son had certainly been acting oddly. He was moody, unresponsive and always sleepy. He had started using foul language


Does he see no correlation between those issues and the fact that his son is 14, FFS?

And if I were the other kid's parents, I would consider taking serious action against the barber who handed over his hair sample.


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Their 14-year-old son had certainly been acting oddly. He was moody, unresponsive and always sleepy. He had started using foul language


Sounds like David Cameron... :twisted:


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But wheres the important news Mail?!?!

What about his class?

How much is the families house worth?

WE NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!


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But wheres the important news Mail?!?!

What about his class?

How much is the families house worth?

WE NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!


Its impossible to make a balanced view of this story without such essential facts.

I can't help feeling Facebook must be involved too. Just a hunch.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... issal.html

Seriously depressing set of comments, at least till you get to the red arrowed ones. I can't believe that people still tell the world that they were beaten every day as kids and it never did them any harm. What particularly amazes me is the number of people who say that if they were this mother they would chuck the 15 year old who reported her out on the streets, without realising that that one sentence is a total indictment of their own parenting.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1207468/Sacked-accused-abuse--I-smacked-son-home-Nurse-lost-appeal-unfair-dismissal.html

Seriously depressing set of comments, at least till you get to the red arrowed ones. I can't believe that people still tell the world that they were beaten every day as kids and it never did them any harm. What particularly amazes me is the number of people who say that if they were this mother they would chuck the 15 year old who reported her out on the streets, without realising that that one sentence is a total indictment of their own parenting.


Wow! That article brings up so many Daily Mail cliches from the Mailites and the woman in the article herself.

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Mrs Pope, who is now a lingerie saleswoman for Marks & Spencer, told the tribunal: 'We all know social services get it wrong every time.
'They jump down the throats of normal middle-class people who chastise their children and they leave little babies to die.

'Social workers don't like parents smacking their children's bottoms.
'Social services didn't like us because we weren't frightened and challenged them.'


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A woman acts within the law, and she is hounded by four separate institutions and ends up losing her career. The mind boggles. I'm not sure who acted the more deplorably- the police for following up such nonsense in the first place, the social workers for sticking their left-wing politically (in)correct busy-bodying noses in, the school for sacking her for something that had nothing to do with them, or the tribunal for saying the school was fine to sack her.

My money's on the social workers, who escalated it by their typical ineptness and spineless approach to child discipline. The idea that every allegation made by an adolescent should be looked into is patent nonsense, and it's time the law was strengthened to prevent normal parents, who love their children, from being investigated by these busy-bodies. It simply isn't good enough that a woman can lose her career for smacking a child in her own home. Disgusting. All four bodies should hang their heads in shame.
- Richard, London, 19/8/2009 0:37
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I could have really bolded the whole thing. I would wonder how he expects the Police and Social Services to immediately know which accusations to follow up and which not to, but I can hazard a guess what he means by "normal parents, who love their children" - he'd rather they automatically ignored all complaints made against middle-class people, who, of course, can do no wrong. :roll:

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At first i though that this was agreed with most poeple that this was an over reaction.

But then i did some 'research'.

A local paper covered the tribunal, and she freely admits 'that she hit her children with a wooden spoon and locked one of them up.'

So perhaps not an isolated incident.

It also refers to them as adopted, i assume meaning that social services would have a hand in any problems. I know someone who fosters and they regularly have Social Services check up on them to make sure it is a safe enviroment.
- Zara, Cheshire, UK, 19/8/2009 16:49
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213888/Teenage-boys-cleared-Columbine-style-school-massacre.html

A rather sensible call from the jury on this one I think. There’s no logic whatsoever in criminalising messed up kids. Rather restrained reporting from the Mail so far, I’m wondering if there is plenty of speculation and hysteria to come. God help these kids if they play Halo or own a My Chemical Romance CD!

A rather scary number of commentators seem to be in favour of thought crime though.

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I cannot believe the jury found them not guilty. How worrying that these boys have now been set free. I'm sure in years to come we will hear their names again when they will have actioned one of their "hare brained schemes". I hope I am wrong....
- Sue, Edenbridge, Kent, 16/9/2009 14:16


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teenage scribblings of youngsters with over-active imaginations?! and people think they shouldnt have gone to court. Did no-one on the jury ever consider that all they hadnt done was make the transition from imagination to reality? The intent was there, they just hadnt carried it out. An over-active imagination when i was at school was more concerned with worrying about monsters under the bed than blowing up my classmates and teachers!
- ruth, rugby, 16/9/2009 14:16



You where thinking about monsters under the bed when you where 16?

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And potential terrorists reading and seeing this would be discouraged.?
We are a laughing stock.
- Richard widmark, Newcastle uk, 16/9/2009 14:10



Yeah, because Islamic fundamentalism and the teen angst are comparable... :roll:

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I'm glad it got to court - it might teach these two a lesson. What on earth is going on in their sick heads?
- brightonbelle, UK, 16/9/2009 13:57



Much the same as goes through many messed up teenagers heads. These ones where just unfortunate enough to be grassed up, thus giving Plod no choice but to drag them through this process.

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It's not April 1st is it? If they were my two I'd be asking for some psychiatric assessment..
- Peter, Wokingistan, EUUK, 16/9/2009 13:52



Who is to say they are not getting it? All today means is that they are not criminals, not that they don't need help. Cretin.

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one thing is writing "i hate all my classmates, i wish they would all blow up" and another thing is actually owning maps & plans of the school, Mein Kampf and details of how to create explosives! even if they did not end up carrying out their plans today, they seem to be "messed up" to be put in the least formal way, and teenagers with these tendancies will not just "grow out of their fantasies". they should have received help, but the UK is so lenient when it comes to the justice system that their out like many other criminals after showing deep regret for their actions..............
- anon, manchester, 16/9/2009 13:52



Yet another prat who can't tell the difference between them not being declared criminals and getting a clean bill of psychiatric health.

Oh and if owning Mein Kampf is evidence of planning a murder then history students and enthusiasts the world over had better start burning their copies now!

One fairly sensible comment at least.

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If the Police got to hear the private thoughts and conversations of all teenage boys a good proportion of them would end up in Court. These two were effectively tried for a thought crime. It's a good job that they got a Jury, future teenagers may not be so lucky. This case highlights the dangerous territory we are entering as far as thought crimes are concerned.
- Paul, Reigate, UK, 16/9/2009 14:01


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I wish when a jury acquits on any case that people who disagree would realise they are only being fed selected bits of evidence from the court trial by newspapers and the media. Usually the more sensational bits put forward by the prosecution. Why can't the Mailite "lock 'em up and throw away the key" bandits get it into their heads that a jury has sat through the WHOLE case, both sides, and not just the biased reporting that the Mail feeds to its readers?


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I've tried pointing that out a few times. You won't be surprised to learn that if it even makes it to the website it gets heavily red-arrowed.


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