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 Post subject: vs. energy saving lightbulbs
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:13 pm 
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Quite a long time after the phasing out of the old style light bulbs, the DM is still banging on about it. Quite indicative of their utter disapproval of any change of any kind.

Watt a dim idea! The bewildering bulbs that cost up to four times as much as a standard one


Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the energy savers cost a bit more, but last several times longer, right? In the long-run they save you money. So banging on about how they cost you more is a bit like saying a car that averages 14mpg and has a 10-litre fuel tank costs less to run than one that does 35mpg but has a 60-litre tank, because the 14mpg car costs less each time you fill it up. I should also add that Homebase are currently selling Philips energy saving bulbs at 10p each.

They really start clutching at straws towards the end:

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There have also been complaints that the flicker of compact fluorescent bulbs can trigger migraines and epileptic fits.


Even if that's the case, I don't see a Mail campaign against neon lighting (which flickers when you switch on) on the horizon.

The comments are a predictable mish-mash of ill-informed anti-EU comments, people boasting of their stockpiles of 100W filament bulbs, and even a nutter saying that energy saving bulbs are somehow a "green tax". Hmmm, a tax that costs you less...


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:46 pm 
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I am so glad I took up the Mail special offer in Feb 2007 and stocked up with low energy light bulbs. I have been saving ever since.

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When our reporters looked for a replacement for a typical old-style 100 watt bulb, the energy-saving alternatives were at least 1.5 inches (40mm) taller.


OH DEAR GOD NO.

Since we switched to the energy-saving bulbs, we have had to replace roughly one per year. Previously it was at least one a week, or so. Not only do save energy, but they last a lot longer too.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:41 pm 
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I got a load sent me by my energy supplier and some by the government. I have never bought one and have stacks of them in the cupboard.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:51 pm 
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And instead of the traditional wattage, brightness of the bulb is confusingly displayed in lumens, which measure the light emitted rather than the power of the bulb.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I buy a bulb I need it solely for the purposes of producing light. Therefore it is more useful to me to know how much light it emits than what its wattage is.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:15 am 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
I got a load sent me by my energy supplier and some by the government. I have never bought one and have stacks of them in the cupboard.


Ebay?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:21 am 
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And instead of the traditional wattage, brightness of the bulb is confusingly displayed in lumens, which measure the light emitted rather than the power of the bulb.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I buy a bulb I need it solely for the purposes of producing light. Therefore it is more useful to me to know how much light it emits than what its wattage is.


Obviously far to complicated for your Mail reader http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_%28unit%29

They want the traditional far simpler system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:39 am 
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Paul, nah, they're OK sitting there.

Does the Mail dislike insulation and double glazing as well? Bloody saving money on heating bills.


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Get them started on scary Micro Wave Ovens will you. My Mum would not have one for years, then she saw the light, a beeping green light actually and she used it a lot, but now sadly, she is not with us to compare notes.

I doubt if the average (sorry Median, Seasonally Mal-Adjusted) Mail Reader could work out the defrost time in Watts of two semi thawed chicken breasts within + or - two hours using Napiers Bones & Green crayon.

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 Post subject: Re: vs. energy saving lightbulbs
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:53 am 
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Paul wrote:
Get them started on scary Micro Wave Ovens will you. My Mum would not have one for years, then she saw the light, a beeping green light actually and she used it a lot, but now sadly, she is not with us to compare notes.

I doubt if the average (sorry Median, Seasonally Mal-Adjusted) Mail Reader could work out the defrost time in Watts of two semi thawed chicken breasts within + or - two hours using Napiers Bones & Green crayon.


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Came back with one of them mobile phones.
Talk of the village it was, till we burned his house down.

Meanwhile from the archives.
Daily mail 1439.

How Gutenberg's so-called movable type is damaging our morals....
Just one of the Emperor's quangos....
80% of our laws decreed by Rome....
Diet's authority undermined....
Lock up your daughters, Moor gets free house in Venice....


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No, the mail circa 1439 (probably a bit later, take account of introduction of movable type printing) was:

Joan of Arc? Witch! Burn her!
Henry VI? Why this namby-pamby so-called sovereign SHAMES Britain!
Get the Woodville WAG look!
What this shameless whore Elizabeth Woodville says about Englishwomen today!
The Yorks - why southern matrons are going wild for a bit of Northern crumpet!
Just who do they think they are? With their so-called "b*****d feudalism", is England being run by a Yorkist mafia?
Owen Glendower insists on being called Owain Glyn Dwr. It's political correctness gone mad!
Do new "Oriental Trade Routes" cause canker?
And Richard Little John on why robbing from the rich and giving to the poor no longer works thanks to self-appointed 'do-gooders' like Robin Hood and his very close friend 'Will' Scarlet.
HURRAH FOR THE BLACK DEATH! (But what effect will it have on hovel prices?)

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Chaucer - ban this sick filth.


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Does poaching the king's deer give you cancer?
Up petticoat and down corset engravings a-plenty in our 'Femail' section.
Domesday census - now they provide questions in French and Latin.
Becket on boozy jaunt to Vatican - and guess whose paying?

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Articles about our brave boys on the Crusades and fighting against gay French woman soldiers.
Letters from St George expat Turkey.
Ban all French immigration to Calais and other Brit territory.


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 Post subject: Re: vs. energy saving lightbulbs
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:09 pm 
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It's all down to price in the end, and now they've come down in price people don't care. My dad doesn't anymore for one.


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