The Mail vs Google

Fflaps · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:56 am

I thought what with all the Street View shenanigans, it's high time Google had a thread seeing as it seems to be a new bogeyman for the Mail. Today's top story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... oogle.html

Basically the search engine picked up a list of credit card details from a criminal gang's site, although from the headline and tone of the story you would think Google deliberately emailed the list to everyone in the UK and it's all their fault. It is a bit worrying that it's that easy to get your hands on it but in a way it's good it came to light because now it can be removed and perhaps the owners of said dodgy site tracked down (probably quite easy - what criminal mastermind has their own website ffs?)

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No wonder! Whenever you pick up the phone and try and pay a bill you end up in India. Who has control over your data? Nobody! least of all you but some person that cannot be even made legally responsible in this country when your credit card details end up somewhere else.
However, the banks make YOU responsible when YOU give your details out.
Having questioned this with Lloyds for instance, they "assure" me it is safe. Oh yeah? And how will they control that???
Click to rate Rating 36- AM, NEWBURY, UK, 28/3/2009 3:27

Oh yeah, like no one in a UK call centre would ever think about stealing details. It's those awful furriners!

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Typical the banks get us into the credit crunch. Then to make matters worse our card details are cloned and published for criminal gangs to rob us blind. But the banks think there is no need to tell us.

It's about time we told the banks to get lost and go back to good old cash. I draw money out of the bank inside the bank and use it to buy everything I need because I don't trust the banks, and even then I am not immune.
Click to rate Rating 19- Pete, Pontefract U.K, 28/3/2009 2:34

Yeah! Fuck the banks! Actually you can be assured that if these companies were in any way aware the data had been stolen they'd have let the customers in question know. Last time I was in NY I had several frantic calls from my cc company trying to get hold of me as my card had been cloned (no money was taken luckily) - they proactively stopped the card until they could get hold of me, reactivated it briefly so I could get some cash out as I had none on me, then cancelled it again and I had my new one within days. So there.

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Try to find out YOUR details by phoning your credit card company and be placed in contact with a COMPLETE STRANGER who has ALL YOUR details on screen, but will ask YOU the obligatory ten thousand questions about YOU, and if you get ONE ANSWER wrong ... NO DISCUSSION, and NO DETAILS given. WHO 'CHECKS' these checkers who are checking YOU and YOUR details ? How do WE know that THEY are not selling YOUR details ? I cut up my Credit card and sent the pieces to the head office with my letter of complaint, about being vetted by these COMPLETE STRANGERS ! ! ! WHY cannot my Bank, where I AM known, answer my Credit Card enquiries ? Seems simple enough to me ! ! !
Click to rate Rating 11- B.W.Moore. Mr., Stockton on Tees ... UK, 28/3/2009 8:46

Because it's unlikely that your bank is going to do anything with your credit card - that would be the card company in most cases.

And so on.

noelfirl · **Joined:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:53 am **Posts:** 12

Little detraction from the topic at hand (sorry), but...

What the fuck is that thing sticking out?

bairy · **Joined:** Tue May 08, 2007 1:40 pm **Posts:** 2807

It's a usb pen drive. I presume it's designed to slip onto your finger for portability.

Paul · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:47 pm

Raskolnikov · **Posted:** Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:08 pm

Wasn't it a bloke who had a false digit integrated into a usb drive?

DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells · **Joined:** Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:00 pm **Posts:** 703

Fflaps wrote:

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Try to find out YOUR details by phoning your credit card company and be placed in contact with a COMPLETE STRANGER who has ALL YOUR details on screen, but will ask YOU the obligatory ten thousand questions about YOU, and if you get ONE ANSWER wrong ... NO DISCUSSION, and NO DETAILS given. WHO 'CHECKS' these checkers who are checking YOU and YOUR details ? How do WE know that THEY are not selling YOUR details ? I cut up my Credit card and sent the pieces to the head office with my letter of complaint, about being vetted by these COMPLETE STRANGERS ! ! ! WHY cannot my Bank, where I AM known, answer my Credit Card enquiries ? Seems simple enough to me ! ! !
Click to rate Rating 11- B.W.Moore. Mr., Stockton on Tees ... UK, 28/3/2009 8:46

A fine understanding of hashing there.

Raskolnikov wrote:

Wasn't it a bloke who had a false digit integrated into a usb drive?

Yeah, lost the end of his finger and had a USB drive put in its place.

bairy · **Joined:** Tue May 08, 2007 1:40 pm **Posts:** 2807

It's interesting to note that the Mail uses Google for advertising income.

noelfirl · **Joined:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:53 am **Posts:** 12

DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells wrote:

Raskolnikov wrote:

Wasn't it a bloke who had a false digit integrated into a usb drive?

Yeah, lost the end of his finger and had a USB drive put in its place.

Ah, sorry never heard about that. Looking closer now I can see the shortness in the ring finger. Sorry folks, will try harder next time :oops:

Elizabeth R. Robertson · **Joined:** Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:33 pm **Posts:** 3

You can use Google Maps to get a detailed, colour aerial photograph of a top-security prison, and then have it enlarged for your convenience. Shocking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... oiled.html

Paul · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:45 pm

Angry residents form human chain to stop Google Street View car from filming their street

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... treet.html

just pathetic!

ManicMiner · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:52 pm

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What is to prevent a prospective burglar from walking down the road and taking mental notes of any likely houses to 'visit'?
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- John GROVES, Shropshire ENGLAND, 02/4/2009 14:24

Exactamundo.

Killer Whale · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:00 pm

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Just out of interest - doesn't he also think that announcing in the national press that it is an affluent area where burglars have already struck successfully three times in the last six weeks might encourage them just as much as putting pictures of the street on Google?
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- K Short, Cheltenham, 2/4/2009 13:33

jonnyhead · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:27 pm

Killer Whale wrote:

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Just out of interest - doesn't he also think that announcing in the national press that it is an affluent area where burglars have already struck successfully three times in the last six weeks might encourage them just as much as putting pictures of the street on Google?
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- K Short, Cheltenham, 2/4/2009 13:33

Yes, there does seem to have been something of a logic fail here.

That's LONDON ROAD, BROUGHTON, MILTON KEYNES, MK16, criminals! If you have access to a local phone book you might want to look up P Jacobs and find out exactly which house to rob for the most massive lulz.

Paul · **Posted:** Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:39 pm

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So if I walk through the village taking photographs and then publish them on the internet what are they going to do?
Click to rate Rating 3- Anne, West Midlands, 2/4/2009 14:41

Jeremy · **Joined:** Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:37 am **Posts:** 426

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Google could photograph by stealth by employing an ice-cream van with the roof-top camera hidden behind a giant ice-cream cornet. Only trouble is, the vehicle could get impeded by hoards of kids wanting to buy ice-cream.
Click to rate Rating 12 - Pete, DE, 2/4/2009 14:58

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