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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:42 pm 
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"a stunned silence" implies that the whole room was silent, but it could really mean "there was a stunned silence from one person but 999 others laughed." its a sneaky and deliberately misleading use of words but youve got to admit its clever.


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Glad to see lots of other people picked up on the inherent truth at the heart of Jimmy Carr's humour. I was really annoyed about the way the media raced to condemn him, and wrote the following on my blog a couple of weeks ago (http://p0pvulture.blogspot.com/2009/10/no-laughing-matter.html):

No Laughing Matter

The problem with 'alternative comedy' is that, as its very name implies, it runs contrary to conventional views of acceptability. Still, that doesn't seem to stop the mainstream press from creating an outcry every time a comedian makes a joke that falls outside of approved humour boundaries.

The latest comedian to fall foul of this unwritten rule is Jimmy Carr, who is currently facing a barrage of criticism for a joke that he's been telling on his current UK tour. Towards the end of his show at the Manchester Apollo on Friday, he said "Say what you like about these servicemen amputees from Iraq and Afghanistan, but we’re going to have a fucking good Paralympic team in 2012."

Within hours the backlash had started, with all the papers running predictably indignant stories boasting headlines such as "Fans stunned as Jimmy Carr insults our Afghan heroes" and "Fury at comic's amputee gag". Sadly, in the rush to condemn the lanky, doll-faced comedian, not one of the newspapers bothered to consider the real target of Jimmy's joke. Or, for that matter, the painful truth behind it.

The first sporting event for disabled athletes was held in 1948, when Dr Ludwig Guttman arranged a sports competition at Stoke Mandeville hospital for World War II soldiers who had suffered spinal injuries in combat. In 1952 Dutch athletes joined the competition and the modern 'Paralympic' movement was born. So, if nothing else, Jimmy is simply making a factual statement about how participation in Paralympic sport has offered injured soldiers rehabilitation and support for over sixty years.

But that's not nearly as interesting as being disgusted on someone else's behalf. So the papers are full of outraged commentators weighing in with their half-baked opinions on Jimmy's gaffe. Real-life Ross Kemp Andy McNab acknowledged that amputee servicemen do compete in the Paralympics, but stressed condescendingly that "it's not a subject for humour" as though servicemen and women would never use gallows humour as a coping mechanism.

Even more cluless are the politicians. Conservative MP Patrick Mercer takes the traditional Queen of Hearts approach, saying "This was a remarkably dim and foolish thing to joke about. It’s not funny and this man’s career should end right now." Likewise, Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth commented "Our Armed Forces put their lives on the line and deserve the utmost respect." Of course, they also deserve effective armour, but that's not something Ainsworth would want to get into. Especially since the right military hardware could have prevented many of the injuries that Carr was referencing in the first place.

This revisionist view of recent history is precisely what Carr was satirising in his act. Given that he visited injured troops at Selly Oak military hospital and Headley Court rehabilitation centre earlier this month, Jimmy is all-too-aware of the sacrifices made by our brave servicemen and women. But he presumably has a lot less time for the cynical politicians who find any opportunity to put a positive spin on the depressing parade of statistics that have been leaking out of the Middle East, since we first invaded Afghanistan in late 2001.

Jimmy has since offered a full apology, saying “I’m sorry if anyone was offended but that’s the kind of comedy I do. If a silly joke draws attention to the plight of these men then so much the better but that was not my intention." Funnily enough, I think that's exactly what he's accomplished. And if I was serving in the military, I'd be a lot happier about Jimmy's war efforts than by the threat of an imminent invasion by Katie Price to 'cheer up' the troops. Haven't they suffered enough already?


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I'm ex army, I don't find his joke offensive at all and by military standards to be honest its pretty lame in shock factor.


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 Post subject: Re: Mail vs Jimmy Carr
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Whilst I know that Jimmy has been a bit of an easy target this week I think this article is a bit below the belt.

Jimmy ripped me off just like he ripped off the taxpayer: Comic's father says he too was financially betrayed by estranged son
By JIM CARR



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1yeH0NQgv

When a father supports one of his children does he really expect that support to be paid back in full? The fact that Jimmy hasn't paid his father for supporting him hardly constitutes Jimmy ripping him off.

The fact that Jimmy want's nothing to do with his father has been well documented on a number of occasions. The fact that Jimmy's two brothers are also estranged from their father would suggest that the problem is on the father's side and not Jimmy's.


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 Post subject: Re: Mail vs Jimmy Carr
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:11 pm 
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Bloody hell. My dad supported me far more than I probably deserved when I was on the dole in my early 20s. He would take me out to the pub, slip me a tenner quietly to get a round, pay my train fares to go to job interviews and finally, lend me £400 for a deposit to rent a flat when I finally got sorted.

Years later, I got a wee bit drunk and blurted out some kind of apology for needing so much help back then. His response was "I'm your dad. It was what I was supposed to do".

Weirdly, the Mail has lead me to have sympathy to Jimmy Carr here.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail vs Jimmy Carr
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'What sort of f****** **** would leave his kids in a pub?': Jimmy Carr launches foul-mouthed revenge on PM after Cameron brands comic's tax avoidance 'morally wrong'

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 Post subject: Re: Mail vs Jimmy Carr
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:31 pm 
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The silence from the Taxpayer's alliance has been deafening.

We should be grateful to Jimmy and Dave for that.


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