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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 12:05 pm 
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I reckon this week has provided arguably the most depressing political news since Thatcher's day. You took depressing political news for granted then- remember every Friday at the end of the ITN News at Ten when they did a round up of the thousands and thousands of jobs lost that week. That might have to make a comeback.


I doubt ITV would do something like that now.

We are though spared some "what about the jobs created at Asda?" stuff from some Coalition clown.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:50 pm 
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Looks like the Mail on Sunday is still gunning for Chris Huhne

[urlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387216/Huhnes-damning-phonecall-Cabinet-Ministers-attempt-silence-claims-tried-dodge-speeding-points.html][/url]

I did try and post a comment suggesting that listening to Chris Huhnes phone calls was something you would expect from the News of the World rather than the Mail but looks like the moderators have blocked it.


I did see one paper - I think it as The Telegraph - add an emboldened disclaimer to their article that they had nothing to do with actually taping the conversation.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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I do like this bit of indepth political analysis in the Huhne article:

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While Mr Huhne dumped his attractive Greek wife Vicky for former lesbian Carina Trimingham, Mr Clegg is married to glamorous Spanish-born Miriam Gonzalez Durantez

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... forms.html

All pretext is gone, check the headline

David Cameron faces Tory mutiny as gloating Lib Dems claim victory on health reforms

I think it's safe to say the Mail has now had enough of this coalition lark and could the Liberals all just leave while the Tories do what they want now please.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:11 am 
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Surprise, Surprise... Cameron's £2m a year 'happiness survey' discovers what we all knew: What matters to most Britons is health, family and relationships

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1TCkaF2VU

Despite the criticism, here and in an editorial, note how the Mail cherry picks the bits which suit its own ideology:

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WHAT A PATHETIC LITTLE MAN CAMERON IS , HIS RICH PARENTS SENT HIM TO ETON BUT HE DID NOT HAVE THE LITTLE GREY CELLS TO DO ANY GOOD THERE AND NOW HE AS BECOME PM AND HE IS NO GOOD THERE, THIS SO CALLED MAN IS MORE A SOCIALLIST THAN A TORY AS HE ONLY KNOWS HOW TO WASTE OUR MONEY ON STUPID SURVEYS TO LINE HIS RICH FRIENDS POCKETS AS THEY OWN THE COMPANIES THAT DO THESE STUPID SURVEYS.
- ROBBIE, NOTTINGHAM, ENGLAND, 26/7/2011 8:38


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:40 am 
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WHAT A PATHETIC LITTLE MAN CAMERON IS , HIS RICH PARENTS SENT HIM TO ETON BUT HE DID NOT HAVE THE LITTLE GREY CELLS TO DO ANY GOOD THERE AND NOW HE AS BECOME PM AND HE IS NO GOOD THERE, THIS SO CALLED MAN IS MORE A SOCIALLIST THAN A TORY AS HE ONLY KNOWS HOW TO WASTE OUR MONEY ON STUPID SURVEYS TO LINE HIS RICH FRIENDS POCKETS AS THEY OWN THE COMPANIES THAT DO THESE STUPID SURVEYS.
- ROBBIE, NOTTINGHAM, ENGLAND, 26/7/2011 8:38


Isn't that...sorry...ISNT THAT EXACTLY WHAT TORYS DO!%? How is helping the rich get richer in any way socialist?!

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:46 am 
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Somehow I don't think ROBBIE is the sharpest tool in the box. After all, he hasn't yet figured out where the Caps Lock key is.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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Out of town free-for-all: Planning law reform ‘is a threat to the countryside’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ntres.html

Sorry to bore y'all with more planning-related tedium, but thought this one was interesting. Basically, the Government have tried to distill all national planning policy documents into a single concise statement - actually a fine idea in theory, but they seem to have prioritised brevity over content, so there are an awful lot of gaps.

However, the Mail's tone in this case is clearly sympathetic to the view of the CPRE, and as such the emphasis is critical. As a result, the focus is on Vince Cable, complete with a photo of him looking conniving, despite the production of this document being Conservative party policy, direct from the Tories' pre-election discussion document called 'Open Source Planning'.

This prompts the droolers to turn on Cable:
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Vince Cable is dangerous. He wants uncontrolled immigration and he wants the countryside turned into concrete. This is the only reason the countryside is to be developed on - the unsustainable population rise fuelled by mass immigration. Blade Runner comes to the UK..... This government, like the previous one hasnt got a clue what it is doing. Surely the conservative party is about preserving? If so why are they letting this communist (communists love concrete, just look at any communist country) maniac loose? If the Tories called a general election guaranteeing a referendum on the EU they would win. If this goes through then it is the nail in the coffin.
- Matthew Tysoe, Northants, UK,


Essentially, the Conservative party and conservative press cannot reconcile the inherently conflicting constituencies within their own party - the blue rinsers in the shires who want nothing to be built ever, and the wild free-marketeers who'd ideally like to be building where you're standing right now. Therefore, the inevitable result is fudge and deflection - the document itself is fudge, and the focus on Cable is deflection.
(Incidentally, in case you're interested, the Conservative party leadership have come down heavily on the side of the free-marketeers. So, just so you know, anything you hear about more local-level decision making, neighbourhood planning etc is a smokescreen that is being contradicted at the very highest level).

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Excuse me, democracy ? I thought that meant giving the people a say at the very least in what happens in the country or more locally in their communities. How exactly is this change in policy nothing more than a dictate from the centre that I was not consulted on or want. Like a lot of people I was stupid enough to have voted for the first time at the last election for the Conservatives. This policy along with a lot of other rubbish proposed by this government makes it impossible to even think of voting for the Conservative Party again. Do they care? probably not !!!
- stephen bennetts, penzance, 26/7/2011 8:52

This is what they do! Why did you vote for them?

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:26 pm 
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I wonder why Matthew Tysoe thinks Vince Cable would want to concrete over the countryside or to permit uncontrolled immigration. I mean, it's obvious to anyone with a braincell that he doesn't, but what are the possible motivations for doing so? Does he hate grass? Does Cable himself live in a brutalist high-rise with windows looking out onto car parks and flyovers, and believe it would be beneficial for the rest of us to do likewise? Or is it a political ploy to abandon the old LibDem strongholds of Bath and Cheltenham, and focus instead on winning Wishaw and Ronan Point?

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This is the only reason the countryside is to be developed on - the unsustainable population rise fuelled by mass immigration.

Not 'because people think they might like living there', then?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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It is curious how many people claim there is no undeveloped land left in the UK. Do they sincerely think that we will all topple into the sea if one more Somalian requires a new mansion? Just ride a long distance on a train and see how empty most of the country is.

Ever been through East Anglia? Mile after mile after mile of flat empty spaces with the odd village popping up now and again. Goes on for hours.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:25 pm 
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Ever been through East Anglia? Mile after mile after mile of flat empty spaces with the odd village popping up now and again. Goes on for hours.

And frankly, some of the locals could do with meeting an outsider or two. I speak from experience.
And welcome, Gourami.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:27 pm 
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Gourami wrote:
Ever been through East Anglia? Mile after mile after mile of flat empty spaces with the odd village popping up now and again. Goes on for hours.

And frankly, some of the locals could do with shagging an outsider or two. I speak from experience.
And welcome, Gourami.


Fixed that for you.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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This is the only reason the countryside is to be developed on - the unsustainable population rise fuelled by mass immigration.

Yes, so people say to me all the time. The reasons of course are much more varied than that - decreasing household size due to divorce etc requiring more housing; second home ownership (in some areas); migration to the South East (not immigration) resulting from a long-standing belief that the UK's competitiveness rests on pumping all available resources into London; a lack of affordable housing related in part to Thatcher's right to buy; and, perhaps most importantly, decades of undersupply simply mounting up.

But yeah, of course, it's all to do with immigration. Silly me.

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ezinra wrote:
And frankly, some of the locals could do with shagging an outsider or two. I speak from experience.


Fixed that for you.

You could at least have deleted the second sentence!


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs The Coalition Govt
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ezinra wrote:
Gourami wrote:
Ever been through East Anglia? Mile after mile after mile of flat empty spaces with the odd village popping up now and again. Goes on for hours.

And frankly, some of the locals could do with shagging an outsider or two. I speak from experience.
And welcome, Gourami.


Fixed that for you.


But who's the unfortunate outsider??


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