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 Post subject: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:10 pm 
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I see that IVF is being given a kicking today in Mail,I know that they have printed anti-IVF stories in the past,so what's the reason for the hate?,given how unhappy the Mail is with the birth rate in the UK you would think they would be happy with IVF,what gives? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:14 pm 
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link?

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:14 pm 
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Waterstones wrote:
I see that IVF is being given a kicking today in Mail,I know that they have printed anti-IVF stories in the past,so what's the reason for the hate?,given how unhappy the Mail is with the birth rate in the UK you would think they would be happy with IVF,what gives? :roll:


IVF is science and thus evil. Or something like that.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:16 pm 
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Story here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1290173/IVF-older-women-NHS-example-mania-equality-wrecking-society.html


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:19 pm 
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Thanks AC!,Iam not very good at posting links. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:21 pm 
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Oh,and there's a really bad Mad Mel peace on it as well. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Can't find much in that article to disagree with.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:00 pm 
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Waterstones wrote:
Thanks AC!,Iam not very good at posting links. :oops:


Highlight the http address at the top of your screen. You can do this by double (or treble in my case) clicking. Go to edit (top left) and click on copy. Come back to your unsubmitted Mailwatch post, go to edit, and click paste. :)


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Mailydail wrote:
Admirable Chrichton wrote:


Can't find much in that article to disagree with.


hmm, well, part of her argument is that the new system of determining appropreateness for treatment is unfair, which ia a good point, it is a tad simplistic. however the previous assesment criteria (age and nothing else) was also simplistic, not taking into account a womans actual health, just assuming health on the basis of an age cut off. it is this even more simpltic measure that mel wants to stick with, i could see her point were she arguming for a proper case by case assesment, but she's lambasting the new measure whilst saying we should also keep with the older worse one. that doesn't make sense.

other than that its just anti-equality rambling, and her classic use of the term "evidence" as if just saying that makes something true, and so on, i made this point clearer here.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:15 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... drome.html


What a spectacularly nasty article with some spectacularly nasty comments down in the red arrow range to match. I wonder how many disabled children Dacre and/or Mail readers in general have.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:56 pm 
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These children are for special mothers only. These mothers get to see that miracles do exist because each step, each word, each tiny achievement is a miracle for their child. No step forward is a small one for them and no step forward is taken for granted. They live and deal with prejudice and ignorance every day of their lives, they cry tears of joy, of loss, but never self-pity. They have a patience that many of us could never understand. If you believe, there is a patron saint for everything and everyone....but for these women, their patron saint is found when they look in the mirror.

- A Mum, Belfast, 16/7/2012 12:01

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z20nlDhM4X



OMG. Just, OMG. Top tip - don't ever, ever say this to the parent of a disabled child as a smack in the mouth may offend.

(Although A Mum from Belfast is doubtless looking in the mirror and congratulating herself for being such a saint.)


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:01 pm 
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Why is this a news story? I don't think anyone would 'choose' to have a child with a disability of any type if they had a choice. Survival of the fittest should dominate anyway. Red arrow away, but i'm saying what most people think.
- TruthHurts, SomewhereOutThere, 16/7/2012 3:37
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O.M.G.

No doubt TruthHurts and the 419 who agree with him consider that any of these substandard beings who have been allowed to be born and, even worse, to grow up, should now be quietly put down. Or maybe not so quietly, might as well have some fun while we're about it. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I bloody hate it when these Neanderthals claim they are saying what most people think, too.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs IVF
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:47 pm 
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glasgowgril wrote:
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These children are for special mothers only. These mothers get to see that miracles do exist because each step, each word, each tiny achievement is a miracle for their child. No step forward is a small one for them and no step forward is taken for granted. They live and deal with prejudice and ignorance every day of their lives, they cry tears of joy, of loss, but never self-pity. They have a patience that many of us could never understand. If you believe, there is a patron saint for everything and everyone....but for these women, their patron saint is found when they look in the mirror.

- A Mum, Belfast, 16/7/2012 12:01

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z20nlDhM4X



OMG. Just, OMG. Top tip - don't ever, ever say this to the parent of a disabled child as a smack in the mouth may offend.

(Although A Mum from Belfast is doubtless looking in the mirror and congratulating herself for being such a saint.)


Jesus that just smacks of some of the shit that you read on facebook :(


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