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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:46 am 
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Actually Lord Hutton went out of his way to say most Civil Service pensions are not "gold plated" and averaged £6000 ( his words not mine). It seems like a lot of people have been taken in by media spin to believe otherwise in order to justify an attack on the public sector. You can not trust them on child benefit, they pledged to maintain it in the run up to the election, only now, to announce cuts & then start back tracking. Try asking a British Army Private what his pension might be after 25 years service.

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At last we will have some justice - perhaps.
Oh how my heart bleeds for all these public sector workers going on about what an unpleasant job they do.
It makes no odds if your job is nice or horrid, it's no reason to rip off the rest of us who are being asked to work longer to bail out your unsustainable pensions while you sit at home with your feet up from 55 or 60.
Remember all of you - you have a choice - do the job or work in the private sector and find out what it is like in the real world. There is no fear of that happening at the moment, too many of you are on a far too cushy number.
BUT YOUR TIME IS COMMING ha ha ha.
- Andrew, Aylesbury, 7/10/2010 11:34


Vote cuntytwat down please.

Overall, a strikingly different tone to the outrage of the child benefit cut t'other day from the Mail.


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At last we will have some justice - perhaps.
Oh how my heart bleeds for all these public sector workers going on about what an unpleasant job they do.
It makes no odds if your job is nice or horrid, it's no reason to rip off the rest of us who are being asked to work longer to bail out your unsustainable pensions while you sit at home with your feet up from 55 or 60.
Remember all of you - you have a choice - do the job or work in the private sector and find out what it is like in the real world. There is no fear of that happening at the moment, too many of you are on a far too cushy number.
BUT YOUR TIME IS COMMING ha ha ha.
- Andrew, Aylesbury, 7/10/2010 11:34


Vote cuntytwat down please.

Overall, a strikingly different tone to the outrage of the child benefit cut t'other day from the Mail.


The Peccary has voted down cuntytwat with extreme prejudice.

This 'public sector workers are lazy/don't live in the real world' bollocks is really pissing me off.

Ok, any office is likely to have its weak performers or even outright lazy ones (I work in the private sector for the record) but really, it takes a special level of twattery to tar a whole employment sector with the same brush.


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It's the nasty spiteful shit one comes to expect.

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I work in an underfunded, understaffed office in the public sector full of people who work very hard and frequently stay behind hours or come in early without any guarantee of getting the time back so this sort of thing pisses me off especially.
Oh, and most of us are on a gold-plated £13.6k a year.


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This isn't Lord Hutton- it's plain John Hutton.


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Chris S wrote:
I work in an underfunded, understaffed office in the public sector full of people who work very hard and frequently stay behind hours or come in early without any guarantee of getting the time back so this sort of thing pisses me off especially.
Oh, and most of us are on a gold-plated £13.6k a year.

If only people would snap out of this crap - I'm sick and tired of the tabloids pushing this 'lazy public sector life of luxury and retire at 45 with a soapy tit wank and a pot of gold' garbage. In my profession the public sector jobs pay considerably less, sometimes a whopping 40% less than in the private sector. They're also the ones which have entirely dried up in the last 6 months.

There isn't a hard and fast rule and it's getting tedious seeing hacks trying to convince us there is.


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Indeed.

Have we had the comparison between private sector and civil servants "in the same building" this time round? Private sector being cleaners and caterers and security men.

And of course the low pay of these people, which has to be made up through tax credits, is perfectly sensible.


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Just makes me too angry for words.

Why the joy in it? When I hear that people have been laid off in the private sector I don't think "HA HA HA YOUR TIME HAS COMM".

Fucking, fucking cunts.

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Just makes me too angry for words.

Why the joy in it? When I hear that people have been laid off in the private sector I don't think "HA HA HA YOUR TIME HAS COMM".

Fucking, fucking cunts.


Yep. That article made me extremely angry earlier today, especially the twats harping on about how public sector workers' should join "the real world". I had to spend the next twenty minutes posting twaddle in the Femail section to calm myself down. I saw a good put-down from a nurse saying these people banging on about public sector workers knowing nothing about "the real world" should spend a night shift in her ward on her salary and report back on what "the real world" is like.


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Off topic, but as I downed my porridge still semi comatose this morning, I fliped on radio 5 live.
I'm pretty sure it was "reactionary city boys hour".
An amusing 5 minutes was filled by a Taxpayer's alliance member (The wife I think) getting imperialy owned by a trade unionist.
The subject was public sector remuneration.
The unionist simply calmy stated facts and figures to face down each and every item of unsupported hyperbole.
Mrs Taxpayer was getting quite irate by the end.

I hate It when I half sleep through such classic moments.


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That article made me extremely angry earlier today, especially the twats harping on about how public sector workers' should join "the real world".


Those firemen should stop peeling corpses off the road and carrying dead children out of burning houses, nurses should stop cleaning up after miscarriages and policemen should just stop knocking on doors to tell whoever answers that someone is dead and won't be home for tea after all. Those self-centred bastards, just coasting along without a thought for DM readers.

As for myself, I spend extended periods of time with people in extreme mental distress, often actively suicidal people who make real and concerted efforts to end it all and sometimes manage. Perhaps I should stop dossing and become a stockbroker instead, something purposeful, you know?

We need to get into the real world. That's where it's at. It says so in the paper.

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I have a relative who worked in the private sector. He earned maybe five times as much as me, sat in his office all day and never interacted with the public. He paid sod-all tax because he was self-employed and had a good accountant. His pension is more than I earned...

I stood in front of classes of 30 recalcitrant adolescents, dealt with their problems and parents (often the same thing) and tried to counsel them, mentor them and keep them on the straight and narrow. Oh, and got 'inspected' on a regular basis, lost 11% of my pension because I retired a year early due to ill-health, and have now had my 'gold-plated' pension reduced further and frozen. Yes, I should have been in the real world.

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I don't really deserve to be paid at all in mail land. After all I only teach. Not a proper job. After my 50 weeks off each year, endless PC indoctrination courses and £100k spending bonanza I have the cheek to expect them to fund a luxury retirement from the age of 55 without a thought of contributing. Do any of their commentators actually check the facts before they spout the same old rubbish?

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This isn't Lord Hutton- it's plain John Hutton.


Whatever. He's still a fucking reactionary prick.

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