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 Post subject: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:50 pm 
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I know that there has been a supermarket thred on here,but most of the Mail's hate seems to be centred on Tesco and only Tesco,any idea why? :?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:38 pm 
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I know that there has been a supermarket thred on here,but most of the Mail's hate seems to be centred on Tesco and only Tesco,any idea why? :?


They're the biggest one, I guess.

Any criticism that comes their way, from any source, is welcome in my view.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:41 pm 
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Any criticism that comes their way, from any source, is welcome in my view.

Even if it's completely made up?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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I had thought the Mail loves Tesco and vaguely remembered reading an arse-licking article recently. Bit of googling;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pping.html

A visionary who changed the face of shopping: If our leaders had one iota of Tesco boss Sir Terry Leahy's drive and flair, Britain wouldn't be in such a mess


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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They're also more than happy to give puff pieces about Tesco charity works or promotional drives

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... -test.html

Tesco is capitalism in its purest form, and I suspect the Mail realises this.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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I had thought the Mail loves Tesco and vaguely remembered reading an arse-licking article recently. Bit of googling;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pping.html

A visionary who changed the face of shopping: If our leaders had one iota of Tesco boss Sir Terry Leahy's drive and flair, Britain wouldn't be in such a mess


It may be arselicking but its bang on the money

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:23 pm 
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looks like a case of the Mail wanting it both ways. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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Mr Mordon wrote:
AOB wrote:
I had thought the Mail loves Tesco and vaguely remembered reading an arse-licking article recently. Bit of googling;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pping.html

A visionary who changed the face of shopping: If our leaders had one iota of Tesco boss Sir Terry Leahy's drive and flair, Britain wouldn't be in such a mess


It may be arselicking but its bang on the money


Having worked for the company he runs, I would just like to say that that really is about as untrue as you can get. Unless everyone in Britain wants to be treated like exploited, unworthy pieces of humanity.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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Having worked for the company he runs, I would just like to say that that really is about as untrue as you can get. Unless everyone in Britain wants to be treated like exploited, unworthy pieces of humanity.


Welcome to Daily Mail Britain!


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
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Strange

For all its faults, i didn't realise Tesco used slave labor

If they are so bad, where are all the striking workers and union uproar?

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:10 pm 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8127477.stm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesco[/url]
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http://cleanclothes.org/news/uni-report ... ces-abroad[/url]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jul/03/tesco-migrant-workers-protest
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 189609.ece[/url]
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www.actionaid.org.uk/doc_lib/14_1_rotten_fruit.pdf [/url]

And that's before we start on Dame Shirley Porter, their actions against the interests of farmers, buying up land 'just in case', the destruction of small retailers, the blighting of shopping centres...


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:20 pm 
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Mr Mordon wrote:
Strange

For all its faults, i didn't realise Tesco used slave labor

If they are so bad, where are all the striking workers and union uproar?


Two points of clarification here.

1. A lot of the workers at Tesco are either there on a temporary basis (parents doing a job while the kids are at school, people between other jobs, students, older people on the verge of retirement etc.), most of whom don't join the Union, which in this case is Usdaw (and which in my experience is more keen on promoting "community activities" in the stores than actually doing anything more militant). These members of staff are often treated worse by the company (one of my contemporaries was given an official warning because he worked three nights a week and had taken one night off ill in a 6 month period, but because that dropped him below the official attendance figure he was "done").

2. Tesco have been exposed as using slave labour several times over the last few years and despite the assurances by the oh-so-brilliant (in the eyes of the Mail) directors have done precisely sod all about it. Why let ethics get in the way of profits? After all, Every Little Helps...

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:29 pm 
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NFU criticises Tesco treatment of suppliers

War on Want demands answers on treatment of workers

Tesco in Child Labour row

Channel 4 investigates Tesco's use of child labour

Ditto from the Mail

Tesco branded 'unethical and unfair'


Just google it.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:42 pm 
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the destruction of small retailers, the blighting of shopping centres...


People want cheap, quality items all available under one roof, supermarkets give them that. Besides, they were all small retailers themselves at one point, but some were more successful than others. Just economic evolution.

I'm certainly not defending some of the company practices overseas, my slave labor comment was about workers in the UK, but isn't it better, in some ways to have at least some poorly paid work than to be scrabbling on top of garbage dumps?

Malc.
from your links:
the BBC one
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UNI claims that Tesco:

thought we liked to deal with evidence on here?
The wiki one:
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The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (July 2009)

'action aid' and 'cleanclothes' are anticapitalist pressure groups so most of what they say should be taken with a pinch of salt

Accept the points in the other two links though

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail Vs Tesco
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:55 pm 
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OK - you lurve Tesco, the rest of us don't. That's cool.
Just don't make them out to be saints, because they aren't.

I'm amazed you've never seen this stuff before - have you been living in a box?


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