The Mail vs Art

Fflaps · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:22 am

Not dure if we already have a topic for this? Anyway I couldn't be arsed going back to find it so here's another one.

The explicit art that shows bestiality with a goat just yards from The Ritz

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Ritz.html

Some of the comments are hilarious. Despite the fact that the painting is explained quite well in the article, there are loads of people upset over this apparently promoting bestiality. And yards from the Ritz as well!!! :shock:

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Bestiality is animal abuse. Isn't there enough animal abuse around without publicly promoting it? What next on show...child porn images? God, how low has the UK fallen.
- smokingetna, Sicily, 05/8/2011 05:51
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Good post from someone who knew the artist:

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robert was a friend of mine and painted me. he would be delighted at the continuing narrow mindedness of people today who express shock at this picture but who would also go to the national gallery to see paintings of leda and the swan, europa and the bull, zeus and ganymede etc. do they not let children in there?
- estebe, bristol, 05/8/2011 06:32
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I think estebe is mistaking Mail readers for people who are familiar with Greek mythology.

Now if you'll excuse me, I think I'll go and find a goat to bother.

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

Ah, I see I've duplicated your efforts and posted it in 'Furywatch'. Very funny.

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The goat picture, painted in 1983, appears to have classical roots and the pose bears a close resemblance to a statue of the mythological satyr Pan with a goat, which was found in Pompeii.

I've seen that statue. I feel all cultured now.

tonysk14 · **Joined:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:44 pm **Posts:** 232

Whats wrong with good old fashioned sheep thats what I want to know. Getting all above themselves with goats just because they are near the Ritz.

Nothing better than they ought to be, the lot of em.

Goats indeed.

Countries going to hell in a thingy cart.,

Adam · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:04 am

We've had a couple of art threads. Far as I can tell, the Mail position on art is as follows: "Something can only be Art if it is a representation of a particular Thing. The more closely it resembles the Thing, the better Art it is"

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

Far as I can tell, the Mail position on art is as follows: plate + Diana = art.

Adam · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:08 am

Tom_MKUK wrote:

Far as I can tell, the Mail position on art is as follows: plate + Diana = art.

ACG · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:18 am

Fflaps wrote:

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Bestiality is animal abuse. Isn't there enough animal abuse around without publicly promoting it? What next on show...child porn images? God, how low has the UK fallen.
- smokingetna, Sicily, 05/8/2011 05:51
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well, we've got 7 years before the centenery of egon schieles death, if you can hold onto your pearls for that long.

ACG · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:21 am

Adam wrote:

Tom_MKUK wrote:

Far as I can tell, the Mail position on art is as follows: plate + Diana = art.

they seem to be big fans of novelty, you get a fair number of "artist makes diana out of toast!" type stories.

Danson's Forehead · **Joined:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:32 am **Posts:** 718

I recall visiting the Museum of Sex in Amsterdam, about 10 years ago. Most of the exhibits were various ornaments shaped like penises, or humourous explicit paintings and cartoons and the like, as well as a looming waxwork flasher. All good, harmless fun. Then, suddenly, I rounded the corner and, quite unexpectedly, encountered what I can only describe as a Wall of Bestiality. An entire wall of small photographs of humans engaged in coitus with animals of various shapes, sizes and levels of fluffiness. Which was all new to me, because animal sex was much less prevalent on the internet than legend had it.

Naturally, I was disgusted, and inspected it for some time to accurately gauge my level of disgust.

glasgowgril · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:51 pm **Posts:** 1439

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Far as I can tell, the Mail position on art is as follows: plate + Diana = art.

Says it all, really.

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Naturally, I was disgusted, and inspected it for some time to accurately gauge my level of disgust.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2839

Artist gets £500,000 of taxpayers' money to transport vast lump of Arctic rock... and take it on a coastal tour of Britain

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1Yfqfmzi7

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The Arts Council is spending a staggering £500,000 on floating a huge piece of Arctic rock more than 2,000 miles from Norway to England.

Once in the UK the newly-named Nowhereisland, which is the size of a football pitch and was only 'found' because of the partial melting of a glacier, will then be sculpted and toured 500 miles around the south coast.

The project, which forms part of its 2012 Cultural Olympiad, has been hailed by artists as an important and innovative way of looking at the dangers posed by climate change.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:54 pm

Sounds like an interesting idea.

Maybe they can cancel Trident and do a few more things like this.

Carlos The Badger · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:05 pm

Mommy's little Modernist!

Still waiting for this to be published in the comments - never mind the friggin' reply! *sigh*

I wrote:

Modernism is a very broad term, Amelia. What would you say this work is, exactly. Abstract expressionism? Neo-Dada? Surrealism? (perhaps not); Fauvism? Or maybe a bit of Post-painterly Abstraction? I look forward to reading your reply.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:28 pm

I love that use of "modernism". Because everything not off a chocolate box is the same.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2839

'Utter filth and depravity': 200 walkout in outrage at sickening Royal Shakespeare play featuring nudity, torture by Taser and rape

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1bbRcyhRZ

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