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 Post subject: Online Porn
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:44 pm 
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Well, good to see the Mail taking the response to a public consultation so well....

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Failure to block porn betrays our children

For once they can't claim that their 'campaign' made the difference, so instead they are all guns blazing on the 'shoot the messenger' tack.

Online porn, the fight MUST go on: Furious charities hit out after ministers refuse to order an automatic block on internet filth

With their top expert on porn Melanie Philips coming up with an excellent brainfart....

They say they are the most family friendly government ever. So why such cowardice on internet porn?

Not sure if they are worried about losing all the ex-pat readers in Thailand to better quality smut, but they are clearly not happy!

Rarely have statistics been so abused to make a point - Apparently 35% of parents who responded (parents made up 22% of the total), plus another 15% who nearly agreed but didn't = overwhelming number of parents.

Naturally non-parents have no say in whether every internet connection should be filtered by default.

The opening line of the editorial says it all really:

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The evidence that young minds are being damaged by the insidious menace of internet porn is incontrovertible.

So incontrovertible that you can list a number of peer reviewed articles that prove it beyond question, yes? Including showing the damage to young minds in those pervy EU countries where sex is not quite such a taboo subject?

There may well be a discussion to be had around the whole issue of Internet access and control, but this isn't it, and the Daily Mail will NEVER be the place to have it...

Fortunately, most of the readers seem to recognise the hypocrisy and are giving the articles a good kicking in the comments.

I also note that I have yet to see a reasonable, detailed explanation of how the feat of blocking all Internet Porn (and only Porn) successfully on a country wide basis is to be achieved. With our previous fine record of public IT infrastructure projects (ahem), then I'm sure it's all ready to go...

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Funnily enough I was in the shop and saw that headline and wrote bollocks on it. Ok not original but it summed up my feelings towards this campaign of theirs

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:11 pm 
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So the people that have been saying that if you bring in some decent regulation for the newspaper industry, the government will take over and control what is said, are now saying that they want the government to control what is said on the internet?


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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:26 pm 
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lord_kobel wrote:
So the people that have been saying that if you bring in some decent regulation for the newspaper industry, the government will take over and control what is said, are now saying that they want the government to control what is said on the internet?


I think you're trying to apply a consistent logic to different stories in the Mail - clearly, that way lies madness :wink:

It would almost be worth seeing something implimented to see the reaction when it accidentally (or correctly, depending on your point of view), blocked the Mail site as being dangerous to developing minds....

I've not experimented with the various packages that are actually ALREADY available to parents, but I do hope there's a 'poor gender/body stereotypes' box that blocks the sidebar of shame - that seems more dangerous to people's sense of self worth than any amount of sweaty grunty clips the poor darlings might 'stumble upon'.

The massive irony of course is that some parents are so scared by the constant depiction in the media of our dangerous streets that they resort to isolating kids in their rooms, yet happily provide unfettered Internet access and then blame other people when curiosity takes its natural course.

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Perhaps the D M can lead the way by deleting it's own Sidebar of Shame.

- Anne, West Midlands EU, United Kingdom, 17/12/2012 8:33
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2FNg1x8Qz



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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:30 pm 
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Internet filth? That'd be this sort of thing would it:

'I celebrate nudity every day': Boardwalk Empire star Paz De La Huerta goes naked for Playboy magazine
Kate Moss shows off her supermodel figure in a skimpy strapless bikini... as she and Jamie Hince heat things up with a romantic PDA-fest in St Barts
Strike a pose! Bikini clad model Claudia Galanti takes a self portrait of her perfect figure as she hits the Miami beach
Kate Moss strips down to a shirt and some VERY sexy shoes as she replaces Natalia Vodianova as the face of Stuart Weitzman
Doutzen Kroes unwrapped: Behind the scenes with the supermodel on the latest Victoria's Secret holiday video (note also the use of the word "holiday" here... the Mail have BANNED Christmas :shock:)
Making a side-boob of herself again! Helen Flanagan reveals more than she anticipated in gaping pink sequined dress for charity gala

At least proper porno sites advertise themselves as such with suggestive titles, popup adverts and malware downloads. This stuff is dressed up as "news".

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
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Then of course there was this advertisement for a porn site


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... z2FP1XZ4f0


Complete with photo and headline:


'I enjoy the sex and being with my mom': Mother and daughter porn duo on how they're 'going to be filthy rich'


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Wishing you a very Abbey Christmas! Mrs Crouch goes topless as she performs sultry striptease for advent calendar video

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... z2FPrgJY00

Unmoderated. Ban this sick filth!

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Someone was telling me yesterday that they maintain an IT blocker at their place of work to avoid the staff going to anywhere they shouldn't be on work time. Apparently the way it detects porn sites is if it sees an excess of bare flesh on the webpage. And can we guess consequently which website is one the blocker classes in this way?


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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:05 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tfits.html

Fancy trying to get the Mail blocked? :lol:

The page include videos for sex toys:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... hones.html


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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:23 am 
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Victory for the Mail! Children WILL be protected from online porn after Cameron orders automatic block on sites
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... cally.html

A small boy wanking, yesterday:
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Mr Cameron says that when people switch on a new computer, they will be asked if there are children in the house – and if they answer yes, they will be automatically prompted to tailor internet filters.
They will include options to block particular kinds of content, individual sites or restrict access at specific times of the day.
If parents click through the options to set up a new system quickly, filters against pornography and self-harm sites will be automatically left on.
‘So this is a kind of “default on” for houses with children; it’s just that it adds much more control for parents about exactly what is restricted,’ the Prime Minister writes. Mrs Perry, MP for Devizes and a Parliamentary aide at the Ministry of Defence, said she welcomed the Prime Minister’s plans.

Based on the comments every other article has attracted, this one is really not going to be a vote-winner. Hell hath no fury like a Mailite without his Holly Valance tit-shot. On the up-side, at least the Mail might be filtered out by default.

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:39 am 
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I think this will be about as feasible as Cameron's advice that the BFI should only produce commercially successful films.

He seems to think that a magic Internet fairy lives in every computer, and that some ISP really gives a shit about him.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:50 am 
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Yes, apparently when you boot up a new computer, it will ask you if there are children in the house. I can see Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple et al happily getting aboard with this one... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
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As a Computer Studies teacher in a Secondary School, I wholeheartedly agree with the Daily Mail's stance on this one.
I have therefore taken immediate action and blocked Daily Mail Online, using our schools internet filters. This is for three reasons:

1) To protect our students from the side bar of shame
2) To protect our students from the hate and bile, spewing from the articles and online comments
3) Because is really funny.


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 Post subject: Re: Online Porn
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:58 am 
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Timbo wrote:
Yes, apparently when you boot up a new computer, it will ask you if there are children in the house. I can see Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple et al happily getting aboard with this one... :roll:


The proposal seems confused; who exactly is responsible for implementing these filters? The ISPs have apparently been told to do improve their system, but I don't see how they are able to detect new computers?

Does anyone feel like doing a bit of campaigning themselves when this all comes to pass?

There's plenty of images/videos on a sexual nature that are inappropriate for children, a few videos they themselves admit are unsuitable for children, a few stills from 18 rated horror movies and some images of dead bodies.

An e-mail to the ISPs or their filter providers might put the Mail in a rather embarrassing position.


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