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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:45 am 
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My eldest son is the primary carer for my grand-daughter, and he has found a reasonable welcome at swimming classes, music club, day nursery etc. but few other men, and the women don't much include him in anything social.
On a more sombre note it caused him a lot of problems when they lost a child that all the support, both 'official' and from friends, was aimed at his wife and not him, when he actually needed it just as much. He was left to sort it out for himself.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:45 pm 
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I genuinely feel sorry for dads who take equal or overall responsibility for looking after their kids, they must wonder why they are still assumed by the media as not even existing, or if they do admit they are real they seem to think they are rarer than hens teeth.


We have a ten week old baby and my husband loves taking care of him. At the moment I do a lot of it because of the way leave works, we missed out on the more generous paternity leave by 4 days, but I will be an evil working mum all too soon. According to the mail I'll be a ball breaking child neglecting harridan and if my husband so much as changes a nappy or cooks tea he will be a poof who needs to assert himself and stop the she devil wife from walking all over him. It's a case of men know your place as well as women know your place, well, equal ops I suppose! A lot of my male colleagues are very involved with their kids so I agree it is no longer rare.


All that helping out in the home is all good, modern and right on.
If husband has the temerity to attend a "parent and child" event, he will likely find a very different atmosphere.
I know when I did I felt about as welcome as Smallpox.


That is a shame. I have no objection to dads at events but maybe others are not like minded.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:56 pm 
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She is a former synchronised swimming champion, has men fawning over her and is said to enjoy being depicted as a dominatrix who whips bankers.

So it may be a surprise to learn that Christine Lagarde also happens to be the one of the most powerful women in the world - the new head of the International Monetary Fund.

Why would that be a surprise? Only if you assume that a woman who is presentable must be merely decorative. Or if you decide that the first paragraph of your profile will concentrate entirely on her appearance and sexuality.

In the next paragraph she's:
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The impeccably-dressed … divorced mother-of-two

No mention of brain or hard work regarding this woman who "happens to be" powerful. Still, she has several things going for her that Dominique Strauss-Kahn did not: she's tall, and she speaks English "with no hint of an accent". Vital attributes for the job.
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She did not clamber into the cabinet room of the Elysee Palace via the narrow, winding, stairs of the ‘grande ecoles’ or tribal, party allegiance.

She did it her own way, albeit with a touch of Gallic flair.

Well, that's because she studied law, which is taught at la fac and not at the grandes écoles. Still, she graduated from Paris X (quite posh) and Sciences-Po in Aix, which is pretty much a grande école. Funnily enough, Strauss-Kahn also graduated from Paris X law faculty and Sciences-Po — though apparently without Gallic flair.

Finally we find out about Lagarde's résumé:
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in 2005 [she] entered the normally stuffy, unmeritocratic world of French politics.

This from a country ruled by Old Etonians.

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First she served as Trade Minister, then in May 2007 she was moved to the Ministry of Agriculture before a month later becoming France’s first female Finance Minister.

Few politicians anywhere have enjoyed such a meteoric rise.

One of her recent predecessors as finance minister, Francis Mer (2002-04), had never been in politics before. I'm sure there was a German businessman, too, who went straight into government. What about Barack Obama?
And the "VERY risqué dominatrix drawing" (as promised in the headline)? It's a political cartoon, one among many that she keeps in her office.
Pathetic Mail.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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A few weeks ago, they published some pics of Lagarde on holiday, in a bikini. The headline included the term 'IMF-oxy'.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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It's official! Women drivers ARE more dangerous behind the wheel, scientists discover

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z1RQSsrqtp

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:15 am 
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Lack of sleep drove me to the brink of madness

An awful lot of comments along the lines of "shut up and deal with it". That's right, ensure struggling new mothers feel the need to bottle things up even more. That'll definitely help.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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Not an article I would normally read, but the attitudes of the commentators here beggars belief.Apparently any women who is not smiling 24/7 is a bad mother! Even her choice of activity is criticized.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... alley.html

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:49 am 
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A hatchet job on ITV’s director of factual and daytime programmes. She’s a woman, and she's from the north, so you know what’s coming:
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… man-eater … attractive and vivacious 46-year-old blonde … her ambition has out-reached her ability … high-level office affair … ruthless … shouty … colourful personality … undoubted feminine charm … very attractive … short skirts and killer heels … a man’s woman [wtf is that?] … brazen … detached house … a very attractive woman [again] …

There's also an appearance by a tearful wronged wife whose husband this vixen has stolen.

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..'career' climbing women =mega turn off!!!
- Mountain Goat, Leaping around in them mountains, 16/7/2011 23:49     Rating   25

Man calling himself Goat = not that arousing either


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:28 am 
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Some like to create a character for themselves in those comments don't they? As if it will make their stupid comments so much more bearable and people won't notice their stupidity.

Animal alter egos in particular seem to be getting more popular.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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complete and total rubbish, remeber ladies who rise to the top do it because they sleep there way too the top in dailymail land

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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Meet Generation X
Women born between 1965 and 1978 aren't having children OR success in their careers... Why?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... z1SkEbqVUz

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Why don't you just print "Women, know your limits!"??? Just because we don't have kids doesn't mean we put our all into our career - some of us are too busy living!
- Pod, Glasgow, Europe, 21/7/2011 9:29 304


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:04 pm 
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Messianic Trees wrote:
Meet Generation X
Women born between 1965 and 1978 aren't having children OR success in their careers... Why?

Oh, a false dichotomy in the Mail. I'm shocked.
Measuring the success and impact of feminism by the number of female CEOs isn't going to tell us much except that sexism hasn't disappeared. And we have Femail for that.
Also, more than half of these 'Generation X' women are still under 40, the youngest are 32. It's all rather premature. (As well as being a load of bollocks.)


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:34 pm 
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A profile of:

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Rupert Murdoch’s Chinese wife, a tall beauty [doesn't she have a name of her own?] … a tigress … both style and brains … a ruthless opportunist whose capture of Rupert … was an act of naked ambition … social climber … ‘coquettish’ … green card … supermodel looks … utter discretion … increasingly protective … hates other women getting too close to him … the pre-eminent woman at his ear …


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:21 am 
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Mail readers struggle with the concept of placing a monetary value on housework. According to a survey by a mobile phone company, the average mother spends 70 hours a week on chores and childcare, which is worth £37,000 a year at the going commercial rate.

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The birds in your garden look after their offspring for nothing. Lets please have team of 'researchers' demanding payment for them too.
- Dave H., Cambs, UK., 21/7/2011 9:30 Rating   15

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Well after this, I expect to read a similarly styled article about how much a wife should be earning if she charged her husband the same rates as a 'lady of the night' for every time they bedded.
- SittingOnNettles, The Thunderdome, 21/7/2011 16:45 Rating   21

Mrs Nettles would be a millionaire. After one date.

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Boo hoo - staying at home is such a chore! Good job you can't watch TV, have a sleep, go for a walk, shop, eat, relax whenever you want. Sounds hard!
- BHubert Toshing , Ackrington Stanle, 21/7/2011 12:23 Rating   13

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Rubbish ! My wife left me 6 years ago.I`ve replaced her with a cleaner for £90 per week.On top of that I don`t have to pay her credit card bill,feed her, buy her clothes, pay for a car ,take her on holiday or put up with constant verbal abuse. The truth is most women can`t keep themselves and sponge off men.
- m d clayton , middlesbrough, 21/7/2011 12:19 Rating   12

Wife replaced by cleaner. Classy.

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Nobody forces them to breed and lets face it, nine times out of ten its the womans choice or one of those - Oops - accidents they arrange to avoid going out to work JJ
- JJ, Perthshire Scotland, 21/7/2011 11:42 Rating   2

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What I can't understand is why we have to put a 'price' to it at all, for either sex. Do we not look after our family/house/self through self respect and for our own well being and not for a 'price'. This is made up by people with too much time on their hands and I'm sure causes needless aggrevation between couples.
- bob the courier, Glasgow, 21/7/2011 10:04 Rating   92

Men work for money. Women work for self-respect. And so it ever was.

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should i pay my mum and sisters for cooking and cleaning for me? lol
- guy, uk, 21/7/2011 11:42 Rating   3

Yes.

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Oh for those halcyon days - women's lib has destroyed this. This country was far better when men worked and women stayed at home looking after the home and the children. Divorce rates were lower, children were better behaved and this country was a much better place.
- Cathy, Watford, England, 21/7/2011 8:52 Rating   72

We didn't ave much but we was appy.

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WHY SHOULD THEY BE PAID FOR IT? THEY CHOOSE TO HAVE THE KIDS, THIS IS A LIFECHOICE NOT A REASON FOR PAID EMPLOYMENT. ANYWAY THEY DO GET PAID TO BREED IN THIS COUNTRY ANYWAY, SO THIS STORY IS LITTLE OUT DATED ASWELL.
- disgusted taxpayer, manchester, 21/7/2011 8:15 Rating   14

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Well, It is womens work after all.
- steve, ederfvyh, 21/7/2011 10:57 Rating   30

You, sir, are cunt of the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:07 pm 
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Ha fucking ha.

This article bears a close resemblance to a piece in yesterdays IoS, which began:

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Is CBeebies sexist? Why not Tara the Tank Engine or Beth the Builder?

and featured exactly the same quotes from Jo Swinson and the BBC. Bizarrely, the Mail's piece was written by a hack in its New York office.

The draw of a Lib Dem talking about gender politics is irresistible to the Mail's neanderthals:

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firewoman pam would be a good one. in it she could get pregnant, get put on light ,no risk desk job duties for 9 months and then take 12 months maternity leave while her male counterparts fight the fires. kids may find it boring though!

- jon, staffs, 25/7/2011 11:58 Rating 12

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This, of course, comes from the MP who put designer make up on her expenses claims. Moral high ground there Swinson.

- Nick, Glasgow, 25/7/2011 10:34 Rating 32

She was no doubt wrong to claim it on expenses, but the insinuation here is that make-up is a 'trivial' purchase. Of course if she didn't wear any, the Mail and its readers would be calling her a hag and a lesbian. Can't win.


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