Rampant racism

DTR · **Posted:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:59 am

Fozzy wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301338/New-figures-reveal-barely-half-new-mothers-parts-suburban-England-white-British-origin.html

Usual scaremongering stuff - implying that non-white people can't be British and isn't it all dreadful. There are the usual predictable comments about how this is all down to mass immigration, non-white people can only be here if they've just got off the boat, clearly they're only stopping off to give birth before claiming shedloads of benefit money. And a number which can only be interpreted as direct incitements to racial hatred, talking about ethnic cleansing and the like ffs.

Can I suggest a mass report-in for the all the clearly racist comments? Really the entire report is an utter disgrace but if we can frighten them enough about the comments it might have some effect.

Due to my job i know allot about how this data is collected and technically White English, White Scottish, White Welsh, White Northern Irish and even White Cornish are sub categories of white other as opposed to White English so the statistics the DM uses are complete bollocks.

croissantfever · **Posted:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:26 am

DTR wrote:

Due to my job i know allot about how this data is collected and technically White English, White Scottish, White Welsh, White Northern Irish and even White Cornish are sub categories of white other as opposed to White English so the statistics the DM uses are complete bollocks.

Yeah, on the last census my mum put herself down as white other, as she got annoyed that the options were 'white irish' 'white scottish' 'white british' or 'white other'

She ticked 'white other' and specified 'white welsh' as she was annoyed that the irish and scottish got their own tick boxes but the welsh didn't.

I suppose that means shes some sort of immigrant right?

Lavengro · **Joined:** Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:35 pm **Posts:** 5

Jack Doyle's at it again today.

Now it primary schools and council houses - all going to Johnny Foreigner.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... laces.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ouses.html

Both serving as the the usual lightning rod for comments and green arrows from the racists and xenophobes.

Who is this guy? And isn't Doyle some kinda Irish sounding name anyway!?

Fflaps · **Posted:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:31 am

croissantfever wrote:

DTR wrote:

Due to my job i know allot about how this data is collected and technically White English, White Scottish, White Welsh, White Northern Irish and even White Cornish are sub categories of white other as opposed to White English so the statistics the DM uses are complete bollocks.

Yeah, on the last census my mum put herself down as white other, as she got annoyed that the options were 'white irish' 'white scottish' 'white british' or 'white other'

She ticked 'white other' and specified 'white welsh' as she was annoyed that the irish and scottish got their own tick boxes but the welsh didn't.

I suppose that means shes some sort of immigrant right?

I did the same; apparently on the next census next year the Welsh option will be included.

Bails · **Joined:** Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:16 am **Posts:** 957

Lavengro wrote:

Jack Doyle's at it again today.

...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ouses.html

Quote:

i was red arrowed in a previous post for being a council tenant and working
now
would you rather a immigrant have my council house rent free
or
would you rather me pay full rent and council tax and stay?
- pinky, norwich, 10/8/2010 08:05

Those are his strange line breaks, not mine. And apparently immigrants don't pay rent or work. I'd rather he pissed off, if not into the sea then at least into a private house, seeing as he can afford to rent.

As for Sarah.....

Quote:

I have been homeless for the past 2 years - just for having no job (have had a broken arm these past 3 years, which the NHS refuse to operate on - they say only 50:50). I am asked to prove so much just to be able to rent somewhere normally (as I used to have savings, but don't have anymore now!) However, going to Brent Council, you either have to be mentally ill (which I am not-not surprising that Brent has the highest rate of mental illness in the country) or under 16 + pregnant - I am neither and even if I was pregnant, I am not under 16. I do not have any bank statements, nor on benefits, as I do not have an address and cannot use any of my friends addresses.My friend also has friends who are in the same situation as me-have now decided to cross the channel. I have been living out of a hired car for the past few months (mine died in December) but this is no way to live.I know of a couple who have just arrived from Switzerland and got housing benefit straight away.This is a disgrace!
- Sarah, London, 10/8/2010 08:04

That's quite a story. But how much does it cost to hire a car for a month? Cheaper than a flat?

Mr Mordon · **Posted:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:58 pm

Lavengro wrote:

Jack Doyle's at it again today.

Now it primary schools and council houses - all going to Johnny Foreigner.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... laces.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ouses.html

Both serving as the the usual lightning rod for comments and green arrows from the racists and xenophobes.

Who is this guy? And isn't Doyle some kinda Irish sounding name anyway!?

So that will be 14 out of 15 council houses (92.5% i think) given to non-migrants then?

davidjay · **Joined:** Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:24 pm **Posts:** 3938

Why would anyone arrive from Switzerland and claim benefits?

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

There were some figures on the BBC news website earlier this year or late last, that said that one in ten council houses went to an immigrant. Really, they should be pleased at the change in the figures (if the figures' are accurate and comparable). Either way, trying to dress up 6.66% as a huge proportion is a bit farcical... :roll:

bluebellnutter · **Posted:** Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:50 pm

Ah yes, I remember that. Everyone else printed 9 out of 10 go to British people, Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph said 1 in 10 goes to an immigrant

All were full of comments of "we've been betrayed", "this is just the last straw", "vote BNP" and so on.

jguazu · **Joined:** Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:09 pm **Posts:** 458

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1302212/White-couple-face-discrimination-probe-refusing-sell-home-black-family.html

Best rated comment:

Quote:

If I was to sell my house I would sell it to whom I wanted and would not expect ANYONE to interfere.
- Nanny 'B', Crawley, West Sussex, 11/8/2010 14:47 113

...and the worst:

Quote:

It is completely disgusting to hear of this still happening. This couple are a throwback to fifty years ago and I hope they are thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed now this has been made public. Probably not though, as their kind often have friends who think the same way.
- Julie, Leicester, 11/8/2010 14:00 14

Fflaps · **Posted:** Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:52 am

I'm pretty sure that's illegal, at least in the US. That house is hideous though!!

eddyk · **Joined:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:19 am **Posts:** 422

Can't help but wonder what the comments would be like if the headline was...

'Muslim couple face discrimination probe after 'refusing to sell home to christian couple'.

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

eddyk wrote:

Can't help but wonder what the comments would be like if the headline was...

'Muslim couple face discrimination probe after 'refusing to sell home to christian couple'.

Particularly as the wriggle-out-of-being-accused-of-racism clause most of the commentators on this sort of thing use is 'the right to sell or not to sell to whom I please' rather than 'the right not sell to darkies/muzzies/forrins'.

EDIT: Missed out a 'to'

glasgowgril · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:51 pm **Posts:** 1439

The thing is, you *can* genuinely use 'I will sell to whomever I please', at least in Scotland: when we sold our first flat we didn't take the highest bid we got for it, because that person was quite open about wanting to buy it as a letting property, and we didn't want to sell to him. We sold it to the second-highest bidder, and nobody said anything about us not having that right. You have to be pretty unsubtle to get into this position. Mind you, most racists ARE pretty unsubtle.

davidjay · **Joined:** Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:24 pm **Posts:** 3938

How very seventies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Relf

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