ok fuck it here goes, im twiddling my thumbs here and its too nice outside to work....
...i think the current laws on cannabis are detrimental to all involved. I think they are detrimental to users, to society, to police and to government.
..I think if cannabis laws remain as they are, very soon we are going to be facing a generation that has lived its adolescent and formulative life outside the law. (If this isn't the case already)
..12 year old kids might not be able to get hold of booze but they sure as shit will be able to get their hands on some rocky (or other equally filthy hashish) off their brother or their mates' brother or whoever.
So the youth is not protected by current laws.
..as soon as that spliff is in that kid's mouth he's saying, 'fuck the police' and watching his back. 'hey I just like smoking weed, why the pigs always hassling me for it?' will be the logic.
So, the seeds of contempt for the law and contempt for authority have been planted, something very hard to reverse.
..this kid is now living on the wrong side of the law, he's seen that the law isn't infallible and is actually morally ambiguous on occasion. Is he going to be more or less likely to be tempted to try and rob those sweets from his local shop? or try going for that bag left unattended?..
..the most damage is done to the human brain by cannabis during formative years. As we have seen, there is nothing in current law (other than its blanket illegality) that stops a ten-year-old or 12-year-old getting hold of some buds. He's smoking everyday and he's irreversibly fucking up his brain. Real damage will be done by this.
So, current laws are damaging the mental health and wellbeing of our youth.
..whilst living outside the law, the kid has to get his green somewhere and he gets it off his dealer. His dealer is an outlaw, any kid thinks this is cool.
His dealer probably doesn't just sell weed, and if he does he probably has easy links to other substances. The kid is living outside the law, why would he stop at buds? The logic of the law has already been proved to be morally ambiguous in this kids eyes (ie he's not dead), so why not try a pill or perhaps later a nice phat line of coka.
So, he is not protected from other drugs, he thinks the government has lied to him about their dangers, he has complete contempt for the law and those that police it and his brain, instead of developing is turning to soup.

How does this legal structure benefit any section of society?

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" HST

Cannabis law is boosting hard drug use

yes it is, for the reasons outlined above by famaf

I love the way they blaim it on Blair again, like he's that powerful
Can't stoners take responsibility for their own actions?

Proof in the eyes of The Mail that cannabis kills, might even be tomorrows front page.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... =NEWS&ct=5

Including scary pic.

Yeah, I skimmed that Paul. Every time that I have a spliff I have to repress the urge to smuggle a gun into the country, build a nail bomb and kill a few relatives.
The guy is obviously deranged. I would have thought that his time in the army would have been more responsible.
The cannabis claim was put forward by his defence lawyer. Ho Hum.

Notice how many times they mention it in the article?


Cannabis-smoking loner David Bradley shot his uncle, aunt and two cousins at close range with a silenced 7.65mm handgun he had smuggled into the UK from Bosnia while serving in the Army.


Shaven-headed Bradley was a heavy user of cannabis, which may have contributed to his deteriorating mental health, the court heard.

Mr Hedworth said: "He may have been suffering from all three and his heavy use of cannabis may have compounded them."

It emerged afterwards that the loner used to lock himself in his bedroom smoking cannabis and hoarding a deadly arsenal of weapons

lets change the text a bit to this article.

Oxygen breathing Bradley shot his uncle.......

Shaven headed Bradley was a heavy breather of oxygen.....

Mr Hedworth said "he may have been suffering from all three and his heavy use of oxygen to breath may have compunded them.

My point being cannibis use is incidental, as is him breathing oxygen. Bradley is obviously a deeply disturbed man with a hatred of society. Whether from trauma during his time in the army or mental health. Yeah cannabis might have deteriorated his mental state, but ti didnt cause it. Anything could have triggered this massacre, drink, drugs, he was having a bad day, someone looked at him the wrong way.

Those eyes, they are the eyes of a killer *shudders*

I think that sums it up.
I wonder if Fred and Rosie West ever, during thier lives, read the Daily Mail? Then we could have "Mail Kills People" as a head line but I doubt if that will happen as it could be factual

4 yr old boy dies in fire and its his cannabis smoking fathers fault...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... rtComments

Mr McHale senior said when he returned from his job as a packer at about 5.30am, he found his son, who had drunk a litre of cider and smoked cannabis, staggering round the living room, the inquest heard

After 2 pints of cider????

Ryan ran back up the stairs was a desperate attempt by him to save his father who was lying deeply unconscious in the rear bedroom as a result of him having consumed a significant quantity of alcohol and cannabis.

Quite how the fire started we do not know for sure. But it seems more than likely that this may have been the result of Ryan either playing with a cigarette lighter or matches.

"Or perhaps even trying to emulate the drug practices which he had probably witnessed on many occasions."

trying to skin upo like his dad no doubt.

ok right ..and the usual nasty comments...

Let's cut to the chase here. If his father had not been drugged up the child would be alive. But he was so he isn't.

- Peter, Hull
Isn't it ironic that drug and alcohol abuse invariably have the worst effects on the innocent? Judging by the family comments published, regret or shame is sadly lacking. They should be so proud of that little boy.

- John, East Sussex

Agree entirely with Peter of Hull.

- Graham Richard Shatford, Upper Benefield, England

life as a meat packer cant be all rock n roll so im sure having a drink and a spliff takes away the mundane life for while..but in the end it was a tragic accident..thats it.

I think the Mail shpould have random drug tests on its staff and sack anyone found positive whilst naming and shaming them in its paper..

Not so much a news item, more like a free promo,

How my life was destroyed by cannabis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/f ... _a_source=




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^ It's great that she is so sure cannabis is to blame for her future decisions, not her Catholic upbringing, nor even the heroin and crack itself.



If there were no cannabis in the world, how does she know she would not have taken any other drugs?

Another way to look at it; cannabis is not directly linked to this woman's problems - they were really caused by addiction to heroin and crack. Perhaps if cannabis was not so demonised then people would think more carefully before trying harder drugs?

Or why not blame alcohol? That also gives you the out-of-control feeling Kerstine learnt to crave.

Thankfully they have let sensible comments appear.



There was an article yesterday, too - Soft drug laws have caused untold harm, warns police chief

well this annoyed me: Sienna: Drugs are loads of fun - I love magic mushrooms

Predictably most comments are just insults like this:



or nonsense like this:



I'm guessing Joel has never experienced psylocybin. Saying they are fun is a subjective statement, and it seems fairly obvious that someone taking them is doing so because they agree with Sienna Miller.

I've tried to answer Joel's question - magic mushrooms are not addictive, although they may be habit forming (as people enjoy their effects), and you would have to consume more than your bodyweight to overdose (most people take 10-20g to have fun) - but they will not publish my answer.

Hm this caught my eye..its okay for a woman to grow canbis cause shes white and middleclass and the comments all support her..but its not ok in any other circunstances...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... rtComments

now re read this stupid article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/f ... _a_source=

It's the Mail. Their behaviour is always justifiable, no one else's is ever excusable.

The cunts.