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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:39 pm 
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Tea Party in the UK? Where about 80 percent of the population either works for a public sector union or has a family member working for a public sector union?

Good luck with THAT one.


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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80% of the population employed by public sector unions or with family members employed by them? That must surely mean that the unemployment problem is solved, unless public sector union employees have phenomenally large families.


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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You might enjoy the blog by the reporter of the story at http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/ ... raction-uk

Some of the comments are unbelievable - the USA gave Europe democracy? I don't know where to start debunking that one, apart from maybe the Ancient Greeks...


You can argue this one quite seriously, as the American Declaration of Independence directly informed the French Revolution, and particularly the Droits de l'Homme et du Citoyen; and the USA sent advisers and support to the revolutionaries of 1789.

Of course, the intellectual seed corn of the American Revolution came from European philosophers such as Rousseau...

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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I love the comments

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It's hard to keep a good idea down ... it was inevitable that this movement spreads to Europe. This is just like Democracy's spread in the late 18th century from the newly formed United States, to Europe toppling monarchs in the process.


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"most people like the NHS in the UK "

And most horses like a harness until they get out of it for a while. You Brits should be paying close attention, once again we'll have to show you what Freedom really is, try to get it going yourselves this time and maybe we won't have to witness a second end to the british "empire"....

And btw HOW many courts there allow shariah law??


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:03 am 
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somersetchris wrote:
I love the comments

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It's hard to keep a good idea down ... it was inevitable that this movement spreads to Europe. This is just like Democracy's spread in the late 18th century from the newly formed United States, to Europe toppling monarchs in the process.


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"most people like the NHS in the UK "

And most horses like a harness until they get out of it for a while. You Brits should be paying close attention, once again we'll have to show you what Freedom really is, try to get it going yourselves this time and maybe we won't have to witness a second end to the british "empire"....

And btw HOW many courts there allow shariah law??


From someone called KnewBetter as well lol. Thankfully a few people put this idiot in his/her place.


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:56 am 
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For once I feel the indignant scorn of an American when they read a load of Europeans talking shit about their country: fuck off and come back when you know what you're talking about.

Ironically, of course, the student protests wanted more government support, not less.

Taxpayer's Alliance is odious. '60,000' supporters? bwahahaha.

I don't understand people.

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Progressives are all the same.
Academia is shit, let's use ideas born of academia.
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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:02 am 
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I can't remember if this has been posted here before.

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:07 am 
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Via 'Left Foot Forward'.

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I’m comfortable with the Tea Party movement. That’s because it demonstrates … that fundamental freedoms still underpin the USA: if you want to start, support or work for a political movement, then you are free to do so.

It appears the author is totally ignorant of how the Tea Party started and what it is. That’s puzzling because it has been investigated and reported by many sources, e.g.:

* http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oc ... h-brothers

* http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010 ... fact_mayer

* http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

Someone even made an entire documentary about them – worth watching: http://astroturfwars.org/

The Tea Party is a corporation-created club for ‘useful idiots’ – people who can be easily manipulated to act and vote against their own best interests for the benefit of billionaires. The Tea Party is the opposite of a demonstration that “that fundamental freedoms still underpin the USA” – it’s a prime example that democracy in the US is paid for, polluted and twisted – more plutocracy / corporatocracy than democracy.

And it should frighten any right-thinking person. The Kochs are sociopaths – their only concern is protecting and adding to their fortune, no matter the costs to society and the planet. Their network of ‘think tanks’ and bough-and-paid-for politicians now have significant political power – this is not a cause for celebration or “comfort”.

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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from the Fox News article comments

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The Tea Party movement appears to be the one world government movement. The smaller government stance is a deception. The Tea Party isn't just sticking with economic matters but now is a social movement world wide of biblical proportions. Speaking about one state religion that violates our 1st Amendment Rights, challenging the 14th Amendment and trying to do away with all abortions under all conditions sounds a lot like government telling me what I have to believe, and violating my privacy rights. What is wrong with everyone? Why can't you see this is evil? I will never support this movement. Never!


You can't please all the people all the time, eh?


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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”Ayn Rand and the Sociopathic Society” or “How I Learned to Stop Loving My Neighbor and Despise Them Instead.”

US-based, but easily transferrable to the average DM reader:

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No gay marriage – Homosexuality makes me uncomfortable (due to misguided religious influence or poor upbringing or both) so gay people should be punished because of my beliefs. Stoopid homos…

No welfare, food stamps or Medicaid – I’m not poor enough to qualify for these programs so my tax dollars shouldn’t pay for it. Stoopid poor people and by poor I really mean black…

No health care reform – Why should I help pay for other people who are sick when I’m not? Stoopid sick people…

No environmental protection – Environmental laws makes things more expensive for me and that’s bad. I also don’t understand the concept of long term impact; I want cheap gas and gadgets now! Stoopid…ah, you get the idea…

Don’t raise my taxes – EVER. The government can find its own money to pay for stuff.

Medicare – Young conservatives: Why should I help pay for old people and the disabled? Older conservatives: Keep your government hands off my Medicare!

Social Security – Young conservatives: Sacrifices need to be made, people should take care of themselves, not depend on handouts from people like me. Older conservatives: Sacrifices need to be made BUT DON’T YOU TOUCH MY SOCIAL SECURITY!

No abortion – The government should tell women what to do with their bodies because I don’t like abortion.

No prayer in school? – GOVERNMENT OVERREACH!! I like The Jesus™ so everyone should have to listen to my prayers. No Muslim prayers, though. That’s indoctrination.

This list goes on for some time. The more I thought about it, the more obvious it became. A conservative society is a borderline sociopathic society.

And there's more.

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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It would seem a Representative in Arizona has been shot at a political rally, which is tragic, but is also interesting as Sarah Palin had a picture of a gun cross-hairs over her seat on a map on her website, and there seems to be a lot of talk on Twitter (as in a lot more than if it were just idle rumour) of a Tea Party connection. Could be interesting.

For those who missed it...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12143774

http://www.alan.com/2010/03/24/palin-pu ... p-says-ti/

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:40 pm 
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See also this

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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Barack Obama has expressed his sympathy through his Facebook page (yes, he has one!). Although he is as formal as you would expect, there are thousands of comments and many of them are very, very angry at Palin. This could get interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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As far as i am concerned, the Tea Party now have blood on their hands. A 9 year old girl was killed in the shooting.


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 Post subject: Re: Glenn Beck and the Tea Party allstars
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If you look at CNN's online report you will see Teapartiers more or less applauding, saying they are coming for the liberals...

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