Eugenics?

Olcan · **Joined:** Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:32 pm **Posts:** 21

Surely the Daily Mail wouldn't be advocating eugenics??!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1352387/My-adopted-boys-perfect-childhoods-Now-heroin-addicts.html

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:54 pm

If not, it's something similar, the 'blood myth' - the fascist alternative to properly researched genetics.
On a skim read it also looks like a 'middle class family - how could it go wrong?' story, to which the answer has to be 'inherited characteristics'. Which I'd hesitate to say is impossible, but other factors are much more likely.

CheckYourFactsFirst · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:32 pm

Seems so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... l#comments

Bob, Liss, England, 22/2/2011 9:25 wrote:

Time to revisit the eugenics theories. Another report says there are 10 million people with disabilities. Add this to those of a criminal disposition and we can only reach the inescapable conclusion that for the first time in history the gene pool is getting worse, and all because all because modern mores and medicine have allowed genetic failures to survive and breed.

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steve h, Limassol, Cyprus, 22/2/2011 8:51 wrote:

Red haired men have red haired children. Cricketers' sons are likely to be good cricketers, musicians' children are likely to be musical, and politicians' children are politically aware. These are not necessarily inherited characteristics, but they may be. Studies of twins and triplets separated at birth show that they grow up with similar characters and abilities. In 1984 the greatly respected sociologists Herrnstein and Murray published a book showing that the children of criminals are likely to grow up to be criminals, by reason of INHERITED tendencies to crime. It follows that human kind could reduce crimes by stopping such people from breeding. Whether, and if so, when, such will ever be done - or should be done - I leave for others. What say readers of these columns?

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pete, wrexham, 22/2/2011 8:22 wrote:

So if you cant put them down at birth can you put them down as soon as these traits are seen? Mad dogs get put to sleep. So should anyone showing these symptoms.

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Holy shit.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:39 pm

I don't want to invoke Godwin's Law unnecessarily, but this was a feature of the build-up to the final solution, the idea of removing 'useless mouths' from society. It doesn't take much for such banal horror to reappear,does it?

glasgowgril · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:51 pm **Posts:** 1439

I seriously think that reading Mail comments gives more insight into how the Nazis managed to do what they did than reading everything AJP Taylor ever wrote. I would not have believed it possible that people could be like this before I started visiting the Mail website; it still horrifies me.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:45 pm

One of my favourite bands. I particularly loved "There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart)".

Annie Lennox had a terrific voice.

liberalharpie · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:05 pm

These comments are nothing in comparison to comments on disability at the Guardian's site.

Bones McCoy · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am **Posts:** 7321

Abernathy wrote:

One of my favourite bands. I particularly loved "There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart)".

Annie Lennox had a terrific voice.

So did her Mum.

storygirl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:42 pm

glasgowgril wrote:

I seriously think that reading Mail comments gives more insight into how the Nazis managed to do what they did than reading everything AJP Taylor ever wrote. I would not have believed it possible that people could be like this before I started visiting the Mail website; it still horrifies me.

Same here,you start to understand how small steps lead to Genocide.

Olcan · **Joined:** Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:32 pm **Posts:** 21

CheckYourFactsFirst wrote:

Seems so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... l#comments

Bob, Liss, England, 22/2/2011 9:25 wrote:

Time to revisit the eugenics theories. Another report says there are 10 million people with disabilities. Add this to those of a criminal disposition and we can only reach the inescapable conclusion that for the first time in history the gene pool is getting worse, and all because all because modern mores and medicine have allowed genetic failures to survive and breed.

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steve h, Limassol, Cyprus, 22/2/2011 8:51 wrote:

Red haired men have red haired children. Cricketers' sons are likely to be good cricketers, musicians' children are likely to be musical, and politicians' children are politically aware. These are not necessarily inherited characteristics, but they may be. Studies of twins and triplets separated at birth show that they grow up with similar characters and abilities. In 1984 the greatly respected sociologists Herrnstein and Murray published a book showing that the children of criminals are likely to grow up to be criminals, by reason of INHERITED tendencies to crime. It follows that human kind could reduce crimes by stopping such people from breeding. Whether, and if so, when, such will ever be done - or should be done - I leave for others. What say readers of these columns?

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pete, wrexham, 22/2/2011 8:22 wrote:

So if you cant put them down at birth can you put them down as soon as these traits are seen? Mad dogs get put to sleep. So should anyone showing these symptoms.

Click to rate Rating 43 (thank god)

Holy shit.

Jesus

Namnval Vidarek · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:29 pm **Posts:** 18

"pete, wrexham, 22/2/2011 8:22 wrote:
So if you cant put them down at birth can you put them down as soon as these traits are seen? Mad dogs get put to sleep. So should anyone showing these symptoms.

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Hi first post. Killjoy that I am I complained about this post (well you would, wouldn't you?) - even for the mail, this is a bit over the line and off into the distance. I was horrified (but not entirely surprised) that it only got 43 red arrows, and one of those was me.

To be fair, they've removed it now. I'm getting the warm glow that PC do-gooders get when they ban Christmas

Sorry for my lack of etiquette just posting straight away like this but I couldn't let it go.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:56 am

You done good.

Mr Mordon · **Posted:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:57 am

don't blame you. Those are some truly shocking comments :shock:

glasgowgril · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:51 pm **Posts:** 1439

But all of a piece with those clamouring for Jon Venables and Robert Thompson to have been hanged at the age of 10, and in some cases offering to pull the lever themselves.

Namnval Vidarek · **Joined:** Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:29 pm **Posts:** 18

Sadly, you're right. That's why I joined this site, after a while if all you've got for company is a load of mailites you tend to get a bit depressed, so I need a dose of sanity. You all know what I mean, a bit of prolonged exposure to the mail and you get a bit tainted...

The comment I complained about was the worst of them (ffs its children you're talking about). As for the others it doesn't take a lot to get the mailites in a frenzy about eugenics and pre-emptive 'justice'. Last time I looked at this article the best rated comment was from, of all people, a primary school teacher, something about 'born to be hung' or something equally charming....

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