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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:08 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:55 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... odies.html

This article would be mindblowing even if it weren't in the Mail. that bastion of paedophile-haters. WTF planet is this woman living on and in what decade is she living there?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:16 pm 
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Nudity is automatically connected with sex? I blame the Carry On films.

Ironic that they choose to illustrate nudity with a Renaissance depiction of Adam and Eve with their bits artfully hidden. Very smart. Decrying modern British attitudes while showing that Europeans 500 years ago did exactly the same.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:29 pm 
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But surely the point is that although there may be nothing sexual about nudity per se, the current convention is that you don't let children run around naked in public, even though this was considered ok 30 years ago; and that the woman is not asking for freedom to go naked in public herself, she's moaning that her *11-yo daughter* was unwilling to remove her t-shirt *in a public park*. As i say, WTF?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:19 pm 
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What raises my suspicions, Glasgow, is that the mother is 'surprised' by this. Really? I don't think I know any mother now who would think it strange that her 11-year-old wouldn't want to go topless. It's a delicate age, especially when they may have contemporaries around them who are sprouting out.

The whole article is bizarre. If Fraser really can't see why a girl of that age would not wish to go topless, then I can only assume she was created in a lab, and never had to go through adolescence.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:22 pm 
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Kenneth Clark and John Berger would have something to say on this nakedness/nudity subject.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:02 pm 
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I agree that little kids can "get away with" running around nude and the like; the amount of pictures of babies either naked or just in nappies on my facebook friends list can attest to that, but 11 is generally the time for a girl when you hit puberty, the effects of which will always make you self-conscious. I do agree that there's nothing wrong with nudity; when in my flat, I'm happy to bimble around naked and the like, and people need to remember that nudity isn't always a sexual thing, but you shouldn't be disgusted by people who ARE more body-shy, whatever the reason.

That said, the nipple issue is weird. It's fine for a bloke to wander around shirtless in summer, but not a woman? For God's sake, tits are just bags of fat and glands and stuff. Plus, what about fat blokes? I've seen many an overweight guy without a shirt during the summer months, and his norks are more impressive than mine. What exactly is the issue with women being topless for reasons other than Page 3 or whatnot? Granted, not many women would go topless in summer, but the choice would be nice.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:20 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... other.html

There is just a never-ending stream of these pieces. This one is a hackette moaning that she conceived two children without difficulty in her late 30s and was delighted at the time but now feels it would have been better to have them when she was younger. Moan, moan, whinge, whinge. God, these women are soooooo tedious and there is sooooooooooo much thin air between their ears.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:54 pm 
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glasgowgril wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1391357/Leah-Hardy-used-delighted-delayed-pregnancy-says-I-mad-mid-life-mother.html

There is just a never-ending stream of these pieces. This one is a hackette moaning that she conceived two children without difficulty in her late 30s and was delighted at the time but now feels it would have been better to have them when she was younger. Moan, moan, whinge, whinge. God, these women are soooooo tedious and there is sooooooooooo much thin air between their ears.


I see a lot in common with the "I'm the first person to ever have had kids" syndrome.
The one they so love to criticise when a celeb' releases a parenting book.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:00 pm 
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I'm sure her children will love to read this.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
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A friend of mine describes tedious articles by people like James "Loaded" Brown about fatherhoood as "I used to be a right cunt, me".


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
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As the judges retire to consider their verdict, I reflect on what I’ve witnessed today; a [children's beauty] contest that is, in my view, exploitative, but also questionably run.

I feel ashamed to have exposed my lovely [10-year-old] girl to a world where she has been scrutinised for what she looks like — not as the funny, loveable person she is.

But I'll take the cheque anyway.

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As the trophies are handed out and Annie, who has come last, is left standing alone on the stage, looking awkward, I feel like the biggest loser of all.

Also in today's Daily Mail: pictures of Suri Cruise on the beach, pictures of Marcia Cross's four-year-old daughters on the beach, pictures of a 16-year-old model for Louis Vuitton, article about Dawn French buying knickers, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
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Yes, it's wrong but I smoked through BOTH of my pregnancies

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
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It's highly likely that for pretty much anyone born before about 1975*, their mum also smoked during her pregnancy. Doesn't make it right but big fat deal that this woman did.

*Might be later, I'm using it as the cutoff point because I was born in '74 and my mum (a nurse!) smoked while pregnant with me. And I'm totally fine <reaches for fag>


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs their writer's own children
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Once again, they drive the point home that she's "middle-class". Because usually, middle-class types are incapable of doing anything wrong.

In her defense, five fags a day doesn't seem too bad, although ideally she wouldn't have been smoking at all. Not that I can really comment, I don't intend on having kids, so will never know how tough it is to give up something you enjoy for some weird little Alien-style chestburster growing inside you.


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