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 Post subject: Re: tottenham riots+
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:20 pm 
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Well that's told me. According to James Delingpole, poor old David Starkey was set-up by that mean old BBC:

If David Starkey is racist then so is everybody


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"Some of my favourite artists are rappers".

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:50 pm 
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The Met's line on Bratton:

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Association of Chief Police Officers' head Sir Hugh Orde said: "I am not sure I want to learn about gangs from an area of America that has 400 of them."

There was a second quote where he openly said that if you have 400 gangs on your beat, your ideas can't be that effective. I'm trying to find it again.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:33 pm 
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A good riposte to Delingpole from Angry Mob.

(And a nice takedown of "professional Gumby" Toby Young's defence by 5CC too).

Edit: On the same subject, I also enjoyed this:

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Neither Starkey's PhD nor his appearance on terrestrial television makes him qualified to comment on politics or sociology. The basic logic here seems to be that academic=smart, and that smart=qualified to mouth off on any damn subject under the sun. It's a strange real-life humanities version of the way fictional scientists like Emmet Brown or Tony Stark or Robotnik are masters of every scientific discipline under the sun, no matter how divorced from their core discipline. One would think that if Newsnight needed an actual rent-a-quote racist, they would have an actual sociologist on standby without resorting to someone who's primary interest is in the sex life of a fat man centuries dead.


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These CCTV camera thingies have come in a bit handy for catching looters this week. I look forward to the Mail's next article whining about them being everywhere.


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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Don't the right understand that the rioters will be really enjoying the feeling they scared the shit out of everyone?

Exactly. This is a primary argument for not 'bringing in teh army!!1!' The little fuckers will instantly see it as evidence of what a big deal they are and be mightily encouraged. You make a containable situation, which it clearly is, as evidenced by reality, into one that looks like the authorities are running scared and clutching at straws. Guess what? They will soon try again to see just how powerful they really are. The government aren't really scared but a healthy dash of fear in the populace is manna to them so why not let it marinate through for a while?

I argued this point on my local papers website and it was a very lonely experience. People were claiming everyone on the street after midnight, including children, ought to be shot on sight and getting tons of support. Try pointing out that we had half a dozen shops with one window each put through, two were looted and about 40 people tried and failed miserably to lure the police into a Benny Hill style chase scene. Forget empirical evidence - it's the end of the world, Sky News sez so.

Even the stupidest politician can see how to translate that widespread level of paranoia into tangible power in just a handful of moves - and Clegg is sittng there handing out mulligans to Cameron. :evil:


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Zero tolerance: The moment armed officer holds a gun over the head of a 15-year-old boy on Manchester high street

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At least a dozen police officers swarmed the area and searched a group of boys aged between 11 and 15 after someone reported seeing two young men pass a weapon between them.



I imagine the cops would have done this prior to the events of last week. However this is a sign of "new' zero tolerance policing....

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How long before we end up with another Mark Duggan

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Big Rob wrote:
Zero tolerance: The moment armed officer holds a gun over the head of a 15-year-old boy on Manchester high street

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At least a dozen police officers swarmed the area and searched a group of boys aged between 11 and 15 after someone reported seeing two young men pass a weapon between them.


I imagine the cops would have done this prior to the events of last week. However this is a sign of "new' zero tolerance policing....

Unsurprisingly the Mailites think this is a welcome development.


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Messianic Trees wrote:
Unsurprisingly the Mailites think this is a welcome development.


The thing is it is not a development. Cops have armed units.... if they suspect weapons then they can use weapons....

However yes, the mailites will take it that way...

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You mean the nuance may escape them?

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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
You mean the nuance may escape them?


The tendency of the arrogant to believe things that make them feel good?

Yes the nuance may well have escaped them.

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A young para in court for trying to sell looted £1,900 guitar

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The mailites might be a bit confused about this since the army would have dealt with the rioters quite easily therfore how could a soldier brave, noble british and white do this?

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