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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:36 pm 
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Yes there was plenty of warning - posters, signs, alerts on the TfL website, it was mentioned on the telly and in the local papers for at least a month ahead of time. But of course there are always going to be moaners who either somehow totally missed all the above or, more likely, don't think it should apply to them.

Alan Ashworth had to walk 2 miles? 2 miles?! Oh the humanity.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:52 pm 
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I can confirm I've just walked three miles from the office to my house. I feel this is enough for me to warrant a medal and a large cheque handed out by a bikini clad lovely.

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:55 pm 
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Is this Britain's daftest cycle lane? The 15ft road to nowhere puts bikers in a spin

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Classic Mail selective use of evidence:

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I've looked at the satellite photo of this. It's at the end of the cycle path on the other side of the road, and it is to assist cyclists so that they don't have to make a wobbly right turn in the middle of a busy road. Instead, they can come straight across and wait for a gap in the traffic before moving onto the main carriageway. It makes sense.

- Eyes2C, Southport, UK, 24/8/2011 14:21 Rating 1

That won't stop the council-bashers, though:

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Got to be a Labour run council , it just must be

- Ian, Northampton, 24/8/2011 13:16 Rating 15

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And if you are intending to cycle straight along the road, you will be fined and castrated if you don't make a left turn into the lane, halt at the white lines, indicate clearly and make a left turn to continue on your way. Come work for your Local Council, excellent wages and benefits package, free lobotomy provided.

- paul, milton keynes, UK, 24/8/2011 13:07 Rating 2


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:08 pm 
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Actually Ian this council was run by a Tory/LD coalition before Labour gained control in May. And that hasn't been built since May...

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:30 pm 
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Still not sure I can figure it out, but here's the satellite view:

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:32 pm 
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So in fact it makes perfect sense for cyclist safety (not dodging across a roundabout exit and some hatchings) while also allowing a freer flow of traffic.

Only in the Mail...

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:34 pm 
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It looks like you nip across during a break in traffic then compose yourself and wait for a suitable moment to pull out (oo-err). Of course, if the break in traffic is such that you can cross to the funny little curved cycle lane wouldn't you just merge with the main road?


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Not if there's a queue, it would be easier to nip straight across then join the queue on the inside I'd have thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Not if there's a queue, it would be easier to nip straight across then join the queue on the inside I'd have thought.


I think I get it. So, assuming there's a queue of traffic, and you wanted to turn left at the roundabout, you would cross over from the main cycle path opposite, and the U-shaped cycle lane prevents you from having to do a sharp 90° turn around a queuing car on the nearside of the road?

EDIT: I can see that you can also cross further along the main cyclepath, but then you are crossing right on the exit of the roundabout which is less safe.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:54 pm 
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But undertaking traffic on a bike is....unwise, it could be downright lethal on a roundabout. If there's a queue then ride past it on the outside.

Paul obviously thinks they're compulsory:
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And if you are intending to cycle straight along the road, you will be fined and castrated if you don't make a left turn into the lane, halt at the white lines, indicate clearly and make a left turn to continue on your way. Come work for your Local Council, excellent wages and benefits package, free lobotomy provided.

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So in fact it makes perfect sense for cyclist safety


Not really, if there's room to cross then there's room to move into the traffic flow. There's a roundabout ahead, so traffic should be slowing anyway, and there's the hatched area in the middle of the road which should give motorists plenty of room to move out to pass cyclists. But instead we end up with a cycle lane, used by inexperienced/nervous cyclists that keeps them away from traffic on a wide, safe looking road, and then spits them awkardly out into traffic on a massive roundabout. They're the same in a lot of places: nice, slow, wide road gets a cycle lane painted on the side of it. When the road narrows, or gets to a junction, 'traffic flow' takes over from safety and the lane disappears.

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I think I get it. So, assuming there's a queue of traffic, and you wanted to turn left at the roundabout, you would cross over from the main cycle path opposite, and the U-shaped cycle lane prevents you from having to do a sharp 90° turn around a queuing car on the nearside of the road

I've got to be honest, I'm a regular (100miles+ per week) cyclist and I didn't know that's what those lanes were for, not that I think there's any benefit to it anyway. Perhaps some signage would help. But if you look at the sharp turn of the path, and the fact it's covered with moss, it doesn't look like the kind of thing that can be taken at any speed, so the 'nipping' across would have to be done pretty slowly (hit wet moss on a slick tyred bike and you'll be eating tarmac in no time). Which brings us back to it just being easier to join the main carriageway without using the lane.

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:46 pm 
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Those right hook and cross to go left things are very common in France, but English motorists don't get them and try to make illegal left turns on 2 lane roads with 110kph limits. Finding one in your path, indicating feebly, as you brake desperately in an attempt to avoid them is one of life's smaller pleasures.
It's a very good idea if your intelligence is large enough to comprehend it, which the commenters' clearly isn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:56 pm 
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It's enough to make motorists see rouge! Paris to allow cyclists to run red lights in bid to cut accidents

Why would this bother motorists? Do Mailites automatically associate the word 'pedestrians' with poor people?

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Great idea. Scores on two counts. Less Frenchmen, and less cyclists. :)

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Fewer, French people, and fewer. Cunt.

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call me crazy but how does this prevent accidents? Might actually be a good thing as it will take all the bikers out.

- rad666, Boston, Mass, 7/2/2012 20:25 Rating 14
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- Jim Stewart, Lake County, IL USA, 7/2/2012 20:23 Rating 35


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:11 am 
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Qiite a nice new Blog about cycing from Mr Colin Pearce:


http://whyrideabike.blogspot.com/?spref=fb

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:29 am 
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I can't read white type on a black background. It makes my head spin.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:03 am 
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I can't read white type on a black background. It makes my head spin.


Me anorl..maybe that's why I have no education to speak of. But I do have a bike. And it's white. As are many roads.

Copy and paste it into a Word doc or similar and Bob's your uncle. Well worth the read .

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