The Mail v Teachers

satnav · **Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:42 pm

I've been a teacher for twenty years and in that time I've met very few teachers who actually want to see the law changes to allow them to use physical restraints on children. If you go down the route of restraint and physical contact it is extremely problematic. When I've worked in special school where physical restraint is used any attempt to restrain a pupil has usually resulted in four or five members of staff be involved. This is because a couple of staff will be required to do the restraining, another member of staff will need to be on hand to act as a witness and then you will need someone to oversee the rest of the class while the disruption continues.

Even if the law is changed it will needed to be tested in the courts before schools are convinced that it is safe to allow staff to be more physical. At present an LA may be prepared to fund any legal cost but what happens when most schools become acadamies. Will an academy real want to find itself in court paying it's court cost out of it's own budget? A school that was taken to court could be lost with a huge legal bill which would inevitably lead to teachers facing redundancy.

ezinra · **Posted:** Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:36 pm

Only half of maths and science teachers have 'good enough' degrees to do their jobs

Gove-friendly bollocks from the ubiquitous Professor Alan Smithers at the 'University' of Buckingham. His report also suggests teachers of modern languages are insufficiently qualified if they have a 2:2 degree. In many cases, though, the staff with lesser degrees are native speakers of one of the languages they teach.

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But are they pretty? If that is a good enough qualification to become an M.P to ruin the country it has to be a good enough qualification to ruin our childrens education. That is what these people are trying to do is it not?

- Dave, Cockermouth Cumberland, 11/8/2011 4:35 Rating 12

hel · **Posted:** Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:48 am

This is the same government that takes education advice from Carol Vorderman, who has a 3rd...

ezinra · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:13 pm

RE teacher sent lewd texts to boy, 14, 'leaving no doubt what she would like to do'

Of course, the Mail only makes an issue of sexual harassment when the victim is male (or a very pretty/famous woman). However, it creates a mindfuck for Mail readers with their Inbetweeners notion of male sexuality:

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Are most teenage boys gay these days? If this had happened to me when I was 14 I'd have thought all my christmas's had come at once. If there are any other women like this out there please let me know where you would like me to leave my phone.

- graeme, east sussex, 13/9/2011 9:02 Rating 102

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Most of the comments on here against her seem to come from men. Come on lads be honest didn't you ''fantasise'' about being seduced by an older woman when you were 14. ...I know I certainly did and that was nearly 60years ago. Ooooh that must make me a '' pervy'' and a candidate for the sex offenders register. Now bring on the ''red arrows''.

- beedee, derby, 13/9/2011 9:16 Rating 23

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When I was 14 I was seduced by a much older lady. It was a wonderful experience, and I know it did me no harm.

- jimlagos, Redditch UK, 13/9/2011 10:57 Rating 26

All that remains is to find a way to blame feminism for the incident:

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Now the full implications of the "women's liberation" movement are becoming clearer by the day.Not only do we have to put up with drunken, screaming, violent women on the streets, but now even schoolboys are not safe from the lecherous advances of the shameless predator hussy brigade. Whatever happened to feminine modesty and decorum ?

- tony t, Gomorrah, england, 13/9/2011 9:49 Rating 26

Adam · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:51 pm

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the shameless predator hussy brigade.

I bet they've got really, really sexy uniforms.

Timbo · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:57 pm

Adam wrote:

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the shameless predator hussy brigade.

I bet they've got really, really sexy uniforms.

I agree. Something along the lines of this:

oboogie · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:19 pm

So a 14 year old should be gagging for it from a predatory adult authority figure should they?

And this would apply equally if the child was female or if the teacher was a gay man would it?

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:29 pm

That would be the logic, yes.

Andy McDandy · **Posted:** Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:56 pm

ezinra wrote:

Professor Alan Smithers

What an appropriate name.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2835

'Racists' aged THREE: Toddlers among thousands of children accused of bigotry after name-calling

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1XuenGX84

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Teachers are branding thousands of children racist or homophobic following playground squabbles.

More than 20,000 pupils aged 11 or younger were last year put on record for so-called hate crimes such as using the word ‘gaylord’.

Some of them are even from nursery schools where children are no older than three.

Comments as balanced and reasonable as you'd expect:

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This is pure madness.
- Tone Byfield, The Disharmonious Monarchy of Chavland, 14/9/2011 1:14

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This is how the PC brigade control what you say in front of your kids.
- christy, farnham, 14/9/2011 1:22

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Can this country get any crazier when they are now classing young children as 'bigots' because of playground spats and name calling ? What bunch of politically correct morons thought of this one. Could we please have them named and shamed because they are idiots.
- TW, London, 14/9/2011 1:07

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This was a piece of sinister legislation dumped on innocent little kids by a sinister totalitarian political party.
- scritti politti, South Shields uk, 14/9/2011 1:10

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Left wing ideaology from cradle to grave.
- Original Ray, Liverpool, 14/9/2011 6:55

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"Teachers are branding thousands of children racist or homophobic following playground squabbles. More than 20,000 pupils aged 11 or younger were last year put on record for so-called hate crimes such as using the word gaylord." Proving yet again that not only are teachers PC but, they are stupid and lack common sense.
- Kenneth, East Anglia, England, 14/9/2011 6:50

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When I was a child, we were just told: "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" if someone called us names... How times change. "Broccoli Head" did make me laugh though!
- crunchymama,Northumberland, UK, 14/9/2011 7:23

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another mistake by the labour government. Its like living under Stalin. Why are they allowed to make reports on our children and not require evidence. Teachers can say anything. Are you allowed to see what they write about your children. As for discipline 90% of teachers are not capable or to scared of what will happen to then to enforce it. If the government allowed them to teach and not get bogged down with paperwork things might be better. Well done the labour government is there no end to the mess you have got this country into.
- Sheila MacDonald, Durrington . England, 14/9/2011 6:48

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The marxist police state has crept up on Britain by stealth, just as federal Europe has - by pernicious Labour salami-slicing regulations and legislation, the complete package even with it's own army of Stasi spies (the teachers).
- expat, abroad, 14/9/2011 7:53

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PC nonsense and how the left want to control all expressions they do not approve of. Even by three year olds. These people are the biggest, totalatarian facists that this world has ever seen. And they think they're right; very, very scary.
- Lawrence, London, England, 13/9/2011 23:53

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What a pathetic sick country we have built for ourselves. Unbelievable. The teachers who 'snitch' on these babies need their warped heads examined. They should refuse to do anything and the nutter that thought this one up needs to see a shrink!
- Freddy Johnson, Pennan Scotland, 14/9/2011 5:23

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:33 am

There was some research about 15 years ago that demonstrated that racist and sexist attitudes (in fact attitudes of all sorts, including those towards food) were pretty firmly fixed by the age of 3, simply by observation of adults surrounding the child. In evolutionary survival terms, infants have to be quick at picking up the fears, scares and 'avoidances' displayed by adults - or else they get eaten or poisoned or abducted. It's all pretty common sense, I would have thought.

Fozzy · **Posted:** Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:37 pm

I wonder how happy that lot would be if their kids came home upset because the others had been saying they were gay? I bet they'd be down at the school the next day complaining that the school wasn't taking enough action to prevent it.

I discount the possibility of them being unhappy if a genuinely gay child of theirs was upset by this, as the thought would never cross the tiny, tiny minds of people like this.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2835

The wrong trousers? No ruler? Get out of my class! Iron-fisted headteacher causes outrage as he bars 150 pupils from lessons for breaking minor rules

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1Y6IFpAT4

Predictably, the Mailites think this is the best thing ever.

bluebellnutter · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:26 am

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The wrong trousers? Get out of my class! Iron-fisted headteacher causes outrage as he bars 150 pupils from lessons for liking the WRONG Wallace and Gromit film

Paul · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:45 am

Bring back the cane, say half of parents as Cameron pledges to restore order in schools following riots

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1Y8ep1S2k

I did not realise there had been riots in schools.

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