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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:52 am 
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They really will stoop to any level to feed the baying mob who lap this sort of bile up. To be in the position where you can publicly criticise a 16 year old boy and call it a job must really make the Daily Mail reporters proud.

Trust the DM to put three 'journalists' on the case as well, seems excessive but we have to remember that they need one to type the story, one to remind them to blink and the other to make sure they can all remembr how to breathe.

And the comments are a joy to read :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:40 am 
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Messianic Trees wrote:
And off they go:

The child star of the Labour conference and the truth behind his 'life of poverty'

I can't access the Mail site (this is often a blessing) so can someone tell me what the truth is about his life of poverty please?

Just wondered if it was similar to the poor, impoverished cow over the the Middle Class Bollocks thread who can barely afford pony lessons for her kids. We're meant to feel sorry for her.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:51 am 
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His father was a property developer who went bankrupt all his homes were reposessed however young Rory was still "lucky" enough to go to grammar school.

The kind of school us Labourites hate (apparently), I don't really need to be told how to think though thanks though the Daily Mail.

This lad hasn't lied, he hasn't even been economical with the truth. He isn't quite your typical 16 year old been left high and dry by these cuts but what chance do others who have get the chance to speak up?


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:56 am 
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Here are some extracts:
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At just 16, Rory Weal was being feted yesterday as the 'hero' of the Labour conference for an impassioned speech telling how the welfare state saved his family from ruin.

The schoolboy tugged at delegates' heartstrings with a tale of his home being repossessed and the family having 'nothing, no money, no savings', and only the benefits system to fall back on.

But Labour leader Ed Miliband may be surprised to know he was not so hard-up after all.

For it turns out he is the privileged son of a millionaire property developer who sent Rory to a private school until his business went bust.

Even now he goes to a selective grammar school, which Labour policy opposes.

Rory's father Jonathan Weal, 53, owned homes worth an estimated £2.25million in some of the most sought-after addresses in the land.

He had a luxury penthouse apartment in leafy Blackheath, South London, valued at £1.3million, but it was repossessed and sold for £359,000 – which is still more valuable than the average British home.

Then the banks sold Mr Weal’s £950,000 Grade II listed lodge house in Chislehurst, Kent, for 'only' half a million pounds.

In the good times, Mr Weal gave Rory an advantage over ordinary families by sending him to £13,788-a-year Colfe's School in Blackheath.

But when his business ventures failed, his son was lucky enough to be accepted by Oakwood Park Grammar School in Maidstone, Kent.

As well as some more about the schools, they note:
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Rory's mother was a director of a number of her husband's companies before they went bust, and she, Rory and her eight-year-old daughter now live in a four-bedroom £300,000 semi-detached house in Allington, Maidstone.

They also include these comments, which (despite the last paragraph) are clearly meant to imply that he was dissembling:
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Yesterday Rory's own grandmother described the budding politician as an accomplished actor.

At her home in Stockbridge, Hampshire, Sandra Weal said: 'He used to do a lot of acting and I think that's why he was so confident in front of an audience.

'We only found out about the speech on Monday and it’s really the first time we've heard about his interest in politics.

'We were surprised because we thought he wanted to go in to something like acting.

'But he'll make a fantastic politician - he's not pompous, he’s just a very genuine person.'


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 am 
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Yeah quite clearly they've gone at a mention by his Grandmother of him acting, I'm not surprised by not knowing about the politics, no one bar my mum and dad knew I was a Labour party member in my family.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:28 am 
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Thanks for that. Lots of lovely detail on house prices which is always nice. So, as susupected, it reads as a story that would normally push all the buttons for the Mail, if only he'd stood up at the Tory party conference.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:38 am 
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Quite.

They also indulge in a bit of misleading photoshopping:

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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:48 pm 
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Middle class speakers talking about poverty at Labour conference.....Shock Horror Hold the Presses

If you listen to his speech the only slightly dogdy aspect is the Welfare State helping him and even then we have no knowledge that it did not.

If the family didn't have a lot of money then he was probably entitled to EMA, repossessions did happen that much is true.

Regardless this government has screwed over a hell of alot of kids who can now no longer go to college and who feel scared about that debt they will have if they go to University.

That is fact.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:46 pm 
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Where is "Life of Poverty" supposed to be a quote from? The Mail themselves?

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He had a luxury penthouse apartment in leafy Blackheath, South London, valued at £1.3million, but it was repossessed and sold for £359,000 – which is still more valuable than the average British home.


Sounds like it was sold to repay creditors. So no cash to Mr Rory.

And who valued it at that, and sold it for a third of the price? Very strange.

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Then the banks sold Mr Weal’s £950,000 Grade II listed lodge house in Chislehurst, Kent, for 'only' half a million pounds.


There they go again. Wher does the valuation of the house come from? Why was it sold for little over half-price?

Hey, those two houses add up to the £2.25 million. According to some unfathomably high valuations.

So in other words, Rory's father had two properties worth about £900k together, and went bankrupt developing the second one- probably owing a lot of money. He'd borrowed against the house he and Rory lived in, so the house was repossessed. Given that he'd put a lot into the business he isn't likely to have had a lot of savings.

Where's the Mail's "Why does the system only help the feckless?" schtick. Now the complaint is that someone it's helped used to have money.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:58 pm 
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It all seems pretty irrelevant anyway, given that it was hardly the boy's fault that the family lost their home. Several Mailites were having a lovely time moaning about the family taking benefits whilst forgetting that the likelihood was that the father had paid considerably more by way of tax than he was ever likely to receive in benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:00 pm 
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Fozzy wrote:
It all seems pretty irrelevant anyway, given that it was hardly the boy's fault that the family lost their home. Several Mailites were having a lovely time moaning about the family taking benefits whilst forgetting that the likelihood was that the father had paid considerably more by way of tax than he was ever likely to receive in benefits.


Indeed. They had to change schticks very smartly to have two goes in two days at a 16 year old.

Wasn't Rory's dad a victim of Brown's Britain?


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
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Dacre surely won't mind if I take his 100k Rolls Royce and sell it for 30k right? Its still far more than the average family (HARD WORKING FAMILY, no less) car at 20k. Or am I wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
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If a £950,000 house sells for £500,000 then how exactly is it a £950,000 house?

Can I describe my £5,000 car as a £9,500 car? If I owe someone £950 can I give them a cheque for £500 and call it a "£950 cheque"?

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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
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Another attack, this time from Amanda Platell:
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Labour found a new hero, Benefits Boy. Sixteen-year-old Rory Weal captivated conference when he attacked the Tories' benefits reforms.

He said the welfare system had saved his life. It turns out he's a privately-educated aspiring actor whose father's a property tycoon. He lives with his mother in a £300,000 house and has ambitions to be Prime Minister.

So, an actor and a fibber with a love of the good life — the perfect heir to Blair.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1ZX9H9ZGa


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 Post subject: Re: Tory Boy Meets his match...
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vile bitch if I were weal I wonder consider on complaining or two suing

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