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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:01 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279178/Google-rapped-watchdog-spying-Britons-web-habits-mistake.html

Our Street View cars WERE spying, admits Google as it is rapped by watchdog

However, not 'spying' as the DM want the readers to believe - they just stored data from unsecured wi-fi networks as they drove past.

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Google spying is a piffle compared to the spying on British citizens by the petty tyrant council jobsworths, police and their omnipresent CCTV cameras. Who's going to take THEM to task?
- Caren Waxler, Europe, 18/5/2010 4:59


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If Google were doing this who else still is?
- Dave, Cockermouth, 18/5/2010 8:43


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Just WHY do we need google spying on us. All thsoe fools who think it cool should ask WHY they need to do this and for what purpose. Google do not do anything for free, I bet our Stasi just love this!
- palladin, scotland, 17/5/2010 23:21


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This cannot possibly be a mistake. Who are they really working for?
- Gill, Sussex UK, 17/5/2010 20:22



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f you're bright enough to use / operate an unsecured wireless router then this is what you get! Kind of like leaving your front door open, then complaining when your place gets robbed.
- Bhinari, West Bromwich, UK, 18/5/2010 6:08


and this was a belter:

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'This cannot possibly be a mistake. Who are they really working for?'

Yes Gill, who do the Google Street View car drivers really work for? The obvious answer is Google, but that's just what they want us to think isn't it Gill?
Just think about it. This article comes out on 18th May. Ring any bells? It was the birthday of none other than Caroline Bonaparte, sister of Napoleon, who wrote her memoirs using the pseudonym "Countess of Lipona". "Lipona" is an anagram of - you guessed it - Napoli. Napoli is famous for its pasta dishes - pasta being the favourite food of a certain Francesco Gullino.
Gullino was the Bulgarian secret police agent who assassinated Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov on September 7th 1978.
Do you see now? 20 years later TO THE DAY Larry Page and Sergi Brin established a privately held company called - drum roll please - Google.
This goes deep Gill. Those Bulgarians got Markov and now they're using your network connections to come after you. Trust no-one.
- Chris, Shanghai, 18/5/2010 8:38


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:05 am 
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That is genius :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:09 pm 
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In fairness, it really is of large concern when a vastly powerful corporation does something like this, regardless of anything else. Chris' comment is marvellous though.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:29 pm 
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In fairness, it really is of large concern when a vastly powerful corporation does something like this, regardless of anything else. Chris' comment is marvellous though.


If people are stupid enough not to secure a wireless network then Google did what anybody else could have done.


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:34 pm 
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I agree. I'm still a little perplexed as to what possible use a load of fragmented, unencrypted data packets would be anyway, other than possibly serving to provide a nationwide map of unsecured WiFi. I'm inclined to believe Google's assertion that this was a mistake, probably the result of miscommunication with the sub-contractors who did all the recon.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:47 pm 
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moonshien wrote:
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In fairness, it really is of large concern when a vastly powerful corporation does something like this, regardless of anything else. Chris' comment is marvellous though.


If people are stupid enough not to secure a wireless network then Google did what anybody else could have done.

Yes, but if you leave your door unlocked and someone steals your belongings, they're still thieves. Some people might be that stupid but that doesn't excuse such data collection.

You don't collect data from a connection 'by mistake', it would have to be specifically coded in. Perhaps someone popped it in without telling someone but the coding was deliberate, obviously. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/18 ... _analysis/ . This incident might be small and the data collected largely useless but there are wider questions here. Google as a company is obsessive about data collection, it's its defining feature. There are massive privacy concerns about a private corporation which has the largest share of online search and effectively controls online advertising and has the stated intention of 'collecting the world's data' and they can't be fobbed off by blaming people for letting them do it.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:39 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... hones.html

Google Street View secretly took your wi-fi details... and will use the data to target ads at mobile phones

:lol: Secretly? Much hand-wringing from the Mail in the article. It's quite amusing reading the Mail talk about the Internet and computers in general. If they're honest, they really haven't got a clue what they're on about.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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Google to offer gay staff extra pay to allow for tax inequality with straight couples
This could have gone in Gay Bashing, but there's no comments (thank fuck).
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But Google has also earned a sinister reputation thanks to blunders by its controversial Street View service, which has sent ‘camera cars’ to take pictures along every road in Britain.
Controversy supplied by The Daily Mail, IIRC.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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I do think that's a smashing thing Google have done. They're not the first but it's one hell of a message to be sending.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:33 am 
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The article seems a bit badly written. It includes two virtually identical paragraphs almost next to each other....

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How many of the 20,600 employees will benefit is unclear, but Google’s internal gay group has 700 members.

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How many of Google’s 20,600 employees will be affected by the changes is unclear, but the company’s internal gay group — who call themselves Gayglers — counts around 700 members.


I see there's no writer mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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Google threatens to destroy not only pop sensation Adele, but Britain's film and music industries. So why is No.10 in thrall to this parasitic monster? screeches the headline...

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One only has to switch on the computer, call up the Google search engine and type in the name of a star like Adele to understand why the digital channel is such a threat to the UK’s performers, and for that matter our whole creative industry.

Nine out of the first ten websites which pop up on Google’s search engine are run by pirates who have downloaded Adele’s output and offer it online far more cheaply than official copyrighted sites and High Street retailers.


Well, i've just Googled "Adele" and ALL of the returns on the first page are sites selling her official merchandise or her Facebook/Twitter profile.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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Dacre Bleugh wrote:
Google threatens to destroy not only pop sensation Adele, but Britain's film and music industries. So why is No.10 in thrall to this parasitic monster? screeches the headline...

In the 'article' it says....

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One only has to switch on the computer, call up the Google search engine and type in the name of a star like Adele to understand why the digital channel is such a threat to the UK’s performers, and for that matter our whole creative industry.

Nine out of the first ten websites which pop up on Google’s search engine are run by pirates who have downloaded Adele’s output and offer it online far more cheaply than official copyrighted sites and High Street retailers.


Well, i've just Googled "Adele" and ALL of the returns on the first page are sites selling her official merchandise or her Facebook/Twitter profile.


I can only assume your PC isn't riddled with browser-hijacking spyware pciked up from spending all day "researching" stories which may be of interest to your Thai readership.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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Businesses to be hit as Google starts charging for maps service

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Travel, shopping, business and news sites look likely to be the ones hit with Google's charges, as these sectors are the heaviest users of the service.


You're going to have to cough up Daily Mail. Your freeloading, scrounging days are over.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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It still amazes me that we can own a computer without the government wanting a cut in the form of a licence. - ak, uk, 3/11/2011 19:26------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have a computer that is connected to the internet you have to have a TV licence even if you do not have a TV. >> Nonsense! You only need a TV licence if you watch the BBC.
- Jessica, The beautiful south, 3/11/2011


I'd love to be there when the man with the van arrives at Jessica's house.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs Google
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What if Facebook followed suit and charged newspapers for every picture they lifted?
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I wonder why.

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