Autumn Budget statement

Abernathy · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:43 pm

It's hard to express how much I yearn to see that smug chubby ginger prick consigned to oblivion.

Come the General Election of 2015 it really will be a case of "Were you still up for Alexander?"

Abernathy · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:47 pm

Armsteen's Alexander mattock :

oboogie · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:21 pm

Malcolm Armsteen wrote:

Abernathy wrote:

I have an almost uncontrollable urge to smash Danny Alexander's face repeatedly with a builder's shovel.

Almost?

I've got my own mattock.

Which reminds me, I've not seen my mattock for years. I thought I'd lent it to my brother, but I may have left it in a Tory MP.

Bones McCoy · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am **Posts:** 7330

bluebellnutter wrote:

(Directed at Osborne, of course, not your good self)

He's probably had that in a dyke before the photo was taken.

Bones McCoy · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am **Posts:** 7330

Class war from the from bench - nothing less.

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

Abernathy wrote:

I have an almost uncontrollable urge to smash Danny Alexander's face repeatedly with a builder's shovel.

How curious.

I have an almost uncontrollable urge to smash a builder's shovel repeatedly with Danny Alexander's face.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:55 pm

Are there any stats on how many interviews Osborne does? I've seen Alexander a hundred times when it should be him. Not to mention Michael Fallon, who's not even a minister, just a member of the Treasury Select Committee.

Btw, that's the same Treasury Select Committee who pulled up Osborne for his "we'll be like Greece" rubbish.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:58 pm

Osborne was on Marr at the weekend . I think he will do the big guns like Marr or Newsnight, and leaves Alexander to do the rest.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:02 pm

As I put up on the pooling resources thread, I think I've found £4.5bn that Osborne cost the economy with incompetence. Seeing that he apparently knows when the prices of things are going to rise:

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/08/ ... -to-4-5bn/

I don't normally like John Rentoul, but that's very good.

High standard of posters on The Independent.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:41 pm

It could have been worse!

Quote:

The Adam Smith Institute (ASI) has issued a damning rebuke to George Osborne. Eamonn Butler, director at the right-wing think tank, has dismissed many of today's announcements as: "Gordon Brown-style tinkering measures that look good in the papers* but end up being bureaucratic and wasteful".

Instead of the £40bn loan scheme for businesses and £5bn of new infrastructure spending, the ASI argued that Osborne should have "scrapped the minimum wage for under 25s, abolished the 50p tax rate and lower the 40p tax rate to 35p, and got rid of the mandatory retirement age."

The Adam Smith Institute think young people would go "ooh, thanks, £3 an hour is better than being unemployed."

They'd more likely riot.

smod · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:46 pm

I saw that earlier! Extreme indeed. Minimum wage is low enough already, I don't think cutting it for young people would suddenly encourage firms to hire more. Unless they could say simply pay people £1.50 an hour.

Big Rob · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:25 am

For all of the comments about this being Brown's fault..

Hey look!!! He has taken us, as Chancellor, into surplus in the past. Thatcher, as PM, did at her least popular too!!!

Of course recessions cause this type of shit, even without benefits, simply because of the loss of tax revenue. Of course employers can drive down employee wage demands ("Don't you see how many people are out of work?").

So with the crash, caused by American deregulation of the banking system, putting people out of work and forcing the government to bail out the banks. The future looks like shit, not orange.

So let's take a leaf out of the DM reader pocket book and pick the wrong thing to blame.....

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

smod wrote:

I saw that earlier! Extreme indeed. Minimum wage is low enough already, I don't think cutting it for young people would suddenly encourage firms to hire more. Unless they could say simply pay people £1.50 an hour.

That's roughly what the government are bringing in for a huge number of people. Out of work for 2 years and you do almost a full week's 'volunteering' or you don't eat. £68 or so for 30 hours or so.

Ok so people will get housing benefit and council tax benefit too but still....

Lots of the lowest paid public sector workers will be getting turfed out of their low or zero skilled jobs and end up in the equivalent on subsistence levels - modern day helots.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:51 am

And remember what happened to the Spartans.

smod · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:43 pm

Quote:

2.29pm: Earlier I mentioned the fact that George Osborne was on his feet for three hours yesterday. (See 8.57am.) John Bercow, the Speaker, has just revealed that he allowed the statement to run for so long as punishment for the fact that the Treasury leaked so much of it in advance. He did not quite put it like that, of course. Speaking when his friend Julian Lewis raised the matter as a point of order, Bercow said that he allowed the statement to go on for so long because, having expressed concern about the pre-statement leaks, he wanted to let the statement run so that he could hear if Osborne had anything new to tell the Commons that he had not already told the papers. But we all got the message.

Autumn Budget statement

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