Mail vs Public Sector Workers...

Abernathy · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:14 am

Meh.

Clarkson is a cunt. Check.
Clarkson has a book to sell. Check. That time of year.
Clarkson therefore appears on chat show. Check.
Acting the cunt. Check.

All a question of degree and to what extent JC has overstepped the mark. Not sufficient to get him the bag from the Beeb, as IMO, it should, that's for sure.

Depressing stuff, mind.

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ceed-.html
And now for some good news. This is NOT the 1970s and these strikes won't succeed...

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I can;t get over the greed of some of the strikers, in particular some teachers who have a good pay scale these days and whose pension scheme is generous in the extreme. Heads in particular have excellent remuneration. A Primary Head or Head of Dept in a secondary school on £50000+ per annum will have an occupational pension of well over £25000 to add to the State pension (giving them an income of£30000+, which over half the population do not even receive in EARNINGS) AND in addition will receive a TAX FREE lump sum of £75000+ _ 3 times the annual pension_ on retirement. Imagine what the Head of a large Secondary School will get!! I am not saying they don't do a great job nor that the job is easy_ it's not, but the pension scheme badly needs revision in the light of the present pay scales. I have said this before_ the pension scheme was initiated when teachers' pay was poor. That is no longer the case.

- Cooper, Cambridge, 1/12/2011 0:48

75k tax free lump sum for Primary Heads and Dept. Heads? Hmm. Weird how I haven't heard of this before. Another example of declaring something in numbers to produce a fact out of thin air?

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:15 am

Is true.

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:24 am

3 x total annual pension (expressed as n/80 of final salary where n=years of service) I believe. It was a pleasant sum.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:27 am

Gold-plated, eh?

smod · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:32 am

I wish Mail readers would read this:

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The London Pension Fund Authority (LPFA) - which is the body that gives pensions to all those who worked in the past for the Greater London Council, the Inner London Education Authority and various other arms of government in the capital - shows how far from the truth this is. Last time I checked, it had about 20,000 people on pension.

Of these, 38 were getting a pension of £100,000 a year or more - that is one in 500, a ratio significantly less than you would find in most company schemes. The average annual pension for members as a whole was £4140 -about £80 a week. Women's pensions are almost invariably much lower because they have worked fewer years, earned less or been part-time.

The average pension paid to most public-sector employees in most occupations is similarly modest. It has not been designed to make them rich. It has been designed so that when combined with the State old age pension, they can live with a reasonable degree of dignity. Although it is true the average wage in the public sector is now higher than that of the private sector, it is not because they have had massive increases. Rather it is largely because the lowest-paid public jobs have been privatised.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard- ... mphreys.do

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IPYFnMTKw_c/TKlSfJ3cctI/AAAAAAAACkY/5DrMBu-i33c/s1600/The+Shallot.jpg

Boy, 6, injured in explosion after mother takes him to work because of striking teachers

:roll:

(my emphasis)

Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

Big Vern wrote:

The Mail soon closed this poll down!!
:lol:

It's still there and now at 90%

AOB · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:07 am

"The strike will cost the economy £500m."

"The strike is a damp squib."

Well which is it to be? You can't have it both ways. Or maybe a damp squib that cost the economy £500m.

Dacre Bleugh · **Joined:** Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:28 pm **Posts:** 468

Big Rob wrote:

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Former deputy prime minister John Prescott tweeted: 'I know Jeremy Clarkson likes winding people up but it's worth pointing out he gets £1m a year from the licence fee/public sector.'

Well said Mr Prescott....

Yup. And if it wasn't for the quick actions of public sector workers, Clarkson's mate, Richard Hammond, would now be worm food.

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

Has this mendacious piece of shite been posted yet?

That's one way to kickstart the economy! Shopping centres packed as strikers and parents whose children couldn't get to school hit the High Street

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... shops.html

Evidence provided by the DM that these shoppers were striking public sector workers? You guessed it. Fuck all.

Could this shopping centre full of shoppers be something to do with, I don't know, Christmas?

The suggestion that people who have given up a day's pay to stand up against a bullying government have really done so in order to do their Christmas shopping really is disgusting. The sad thing is that there will be thousands of public sector workers buying the Mail as usual today. Dacre's naked contempt for the people that keep the country's public services running is really sickening and baffling in equal measure.

Arnold · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:56 am

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State workers get paid 7.5% more than private sector staff

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1fHNX5vA5

Big Vern · **Joined:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:49 am **Posts:** 807

Gourami wrote:

Big Vern wrote:

The Mail soon closed this poll down!!
:lol:

It's still there and now at 90%

It must have been re-instated....It definitely vanished for a long time.
:shock:

Tom_UK · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:14 pm **Posts:** 3168

It's now 91% 'yes' vs. 9% 'no', which may be why it's been shunted right down to the bottom of the page.

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