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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:10 pm 
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Oh and this guy is just a twunt,along with the 39 who agreed with him.

These people chop-down their trees then want aid when it rains and the water runs straight down the hills and floods them! They fail to limit their population and expect us to feed them and their brats! They fail to store food during the good times, to get them through the droughts! They fight pointless wars, over trivia, neglect their agriculture and expect us to feed them! Their rulers sit on solid gold lavatory seats (etc.) whilst their subjects starve and expect us to feed them! Cameron is a gullible idealist, with his head in the clouds. These people will be a constant drain on our scarce resources. All the billions of pounds that we have handed-over to Africa (etc.) over the years have achieved nothing - they are a waste of time and effort. Abandoning them is the right approach - tough but right! Absolutely stop their coming to the UK - it is full.

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A definite cunt of the day candidate.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:41 pm 
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How India squanders British aid: We give £1.4bn to a country that has its own space programme. In this damning investigation, the Mail reveals how it's scandalously wasted

A vintage example of unbalanced reporting: there's not a single voice in this article from supporters of the aid programme, or even from the DfID.

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teachers in a quarter of primary schools are routinely absent because they take part-time jobs outside school to compensate for low pay.

And cutting the aid budget is going to make this better?

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‘We do not have the money to pay for medical staff to perform an operation, such as an emergency Caesarean, in the operating theatre. We can only deal with the uncomplicated births at our clinic,’ says Dr Rajasree Bajaj, the medical director, bluntly. ‘The expensive equipment bought with your aid money has been wasted.’

And cutting the aid budget is going to make this better?

Meanwhile, the racists are out in numbers:
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Thank you for your money and jobs, teehee!

- Mr Patel, proud cornershop owner, India, 02/12/2011 10:42 Rating 1
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Mangala, Luton, UK: There are 1 milion Indians working in UK. Each pays not less that £6,000 taxes. That is £6 billion. That is to say £1.4 billion is their own money!!
- That's possibly the biggest nonsense I've ever seen on DM comments. Indians in UK are either on benefits or winging about low wages and in any event the minimal taxes bought in by them pay go into the same pot as all other income tax from workers in Britain - £6,000 a head, balderdash!

- Sue, Dorking, Surrey, 2/12/2011 10:52 Rating 11


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:44 pm 
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There are many towns and cities in this country that receive aid from the EU because they are considered areas of deprivation. According to the Mail logic the EU should stop providing money for British towns and cities to regenerate because we have enough money to buy nuclear weapons.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:46 pm 
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Don't we give money to India so that they can buy our weapons? I thought that was the arrangement.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:08 pm 
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"Damning investigation"? Speaking only to people who you know will support the oppinion you want to put to your readers is not an investigation.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:14 pm 
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The country is racing up the league of rich nations. Indeed, its soaring economy will outstrip the UK’s by 2022.

They keep repeating this despite the fact that, with over a billion people, even if India had the same size economy as the UK the average Indian would still be far poorer. Following the Mail's logic Liechtenstein is poorer than Niger.

There's some kind of mailite delusion that the government is just handing out this money totally altuistically, expecting nothing in return. Paraguay receives a lot of aid from Taiwan, who basically use it as their voice in the UN on any matters concerning them. I'm guessing that if Paraguay were to start relations with the People's Republic then the Taiwanese goodwill would suddenly dissappear. Same, Japan gives aid in exchange for (landlocked) Paraguay's support on anything to do with whale-hunting. I doubt that the UK's government thinks any differently, and if they're giving 1.4 billion to India then they're definitely going to be expecting something in return.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:48 pm 
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"Damning Investigation"? :lol: "Whining about how the fuzzy wuzzies aren't starving illiterates dying of HIV so we can feel smug and superior" more like

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:38 pm 
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Indians in UK are either on benefits or winging about low wages and in any event the minimal taxes bought in by them pay go into the same pot as all other income tax from workers in Britain - £6,000 a head, balderdash!

- Sue, Dorking, Surrey, 2/12/2011 10:52 Rating 11

I wonder how Sue accounts for those Indians who own her corner shop, and numerous extremely successful Indian businessmen, professionals, restaurant owners etc?

Oh, silly me, no doubt she assumes that they all claim benefits anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
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Sue from Dorking is clearly an expert. Clearly.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
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Indians in UK are either on benefits or winging about low wages and in any event the minimal taxes bought in by them pay go into the same pot as all other income tax from workers in Britain - £6,000 a head, balderdash!

- Sue, Dorking, Surrey, 2/12/2011 10:52 Rating 11

I wonder how Sue accounts for those Indians who own her corner shop, and numerous extremely successful Indian businessmen, professionals, restaurant owners etc?

Oh, silly me, no doubt she assumes that they all claim benefits anyway.


Mr Mittal and Mr Patak being perfect examples of those benefit scrounging Indians who do nothing for this country except employee thousands of people.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:10 pm 
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Mittal is the richest man in India, Asia and the United Kingdom, and second in Europe and is presently the sixth richest individual in the world with a personal wealth of US$31.1 billion. He is the 44th "most powerful person" of the 68 individuals named in Forbes's Most Powerful People list. His daughter Vanisha Mittal's wedding was the most expensive in the recorded history of the world

Clearly a benefits scrounger.

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Patak's is a brand of curry pastes and spices now owned by Associated British Foods.
The company supplies 75% of British curry houses with sauces and mixed spices, and sells ready meals to all the major UK supermarkets and other major retailers throughout Europe and North America. Patak's was sold to Associated British Foods on 30 May 2007 for £200 million.

Yup. There goes another one on benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
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I assume "Indian" just means brown.

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Individual poverty rates by ethnic group have White at 19%, Indian at 28%, and Pakistani or Bangladeshi at 59%.


Those poverty rates will include a lot of people in work. Though I doubt they do any because they're whining all the time.

I'd say Indian and Pakistan's nuclear weapons are more of a waste of money than a space programme, on balance.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
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You have to consider both as themed research programmes with multiple spin-offs into other industries. That's one of the main reasons for it - at least the space programme.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:23 pm 
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Yeah, of course they have very useful spin-offs- cricket's Hawkeye, for example. But presumably it would cost a lot less to concentrate directly on useful areas, rather than buiding weapons and belatedly following stuff up.

Does India even make weapons itself, or buy them off the shelf?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail vs foreign aid
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Now a law for foreign aid! Ministers want to commit Britain to billions in handouts

As you'd expect, the comments are full of festive cheer.

For my own part, I'll give this a go:

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The usual sort of scare-mongering I note from a newspaper and readership that is all to ready to boast on other stories that we are a Christian country with Christian values, but when it comes to helping those less fortunate than themselves, which I believe is something Jesus was quite hot on, they don't want to know.


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