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Fflaps · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:18 pm

Having read the odd story in tacky women's mags along the lines of 'I received a donor heart from a trapeze artist/painter/chef and became interested in the circus/an amazing artist/a Cordon Bleu cook', I'd be inclined not to want these people's organs anyway just in case it was true and I caught stupid.

moonkatt · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:39 pm

bluebellnutter wrote:

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26.Mike
5 Hours ago
I see any comments on here against the idea get a negative rating. They seem to want your body and you better not dare raise any objections about it!

"My opinion isn't being considered normal, it's a conspiracy!"

Thats just an example of "The internet disagrees with me, when I know I'm right. It's a conspiracy!!!!!11!!"

Just like my own little problem. When playing call of duty online, if anyone starts beating me then clearly, they're hacking as I'm the greatest COD player in teh world!

shyamz · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:45 am

Plenty of comments along the lines of "scientists have no souls" and "can we opt out of the nhs?".

Fine. Remember those oppinions of yours next time you need to go into hospital for something, and discover you require treatment that only years of scientfic research could have ever made happen.

Change your tune then won't you? You'll be expecting all the free NHS care you think you're entitled to then won't you?

Arseholes.

Adam · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:05 pm

To be honest, once I'm dead, anyone can have absolutely any bit of me they happen to want. For a transplant, for a snack. I don't care, I'm dead.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:09 pm

shyamz wrote:

Plenty of comments along the lines of "scientists have no souls" and "can we opt out of the nhs?".

Fine. Remember those oppinions of yours next time you need to into hospital for something, and discover you require treatment that only years of scientfic research could have ever made happen.

Change your tune then won't you? You'll be expecting all the free NHS care you think you're entitled to then won't you?

Arseholes.

There's no realisation, is there, that without the NHS they wouldn't be able to afford health care for exactly the same reason they can't afford private healthcare now. They aren't rich enough. And supposing, of course, that with NHS competition removed the private healthcare companies would drop their rates. I think the likelihood of that is firmly into negative numbers territory.

crabcakes_windermere · **Joined:** Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:56 pm **Posts:** 2084

Malcolm Armsteen wrote:

There's no realisation, is there, that without the NHS they wouldn't be able to afford health care for exactly the same reason they can't afford private healthcare now. They aren't rich enough. And supposing, of course, that with NHS competition removed the private healthcare companies would drop their rates. I think the likelihood of that is firmly into negative numbers territory.

Don't be silly Malcolm. When we're not paying for the NHS in tax, we'll all be so stinking rich we'll be able to afford top tier BUPA rates, and of course none of the medical companies will hike their prices up knowing they now have a captive market. You know, just like no one in the USA ever dies because they can't afford healthcare and everyone - even the poorest person - is well off because they don't have to pay such a huge public service bill.

Oh, wait...

bluebellnutter · **Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:12 pm

If I were to tell you the BBC is running an HYS on "Is Christmas under attack?", do you think it'd be a magnet for cunts? Well let's find out...

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4.Wannabeyankee
Comment number 4 is an Editors' Pick
2 Hours ago
Yes, Christmas is under attack. The PC brigade would have us say "Happy Holidays" for fear of upsetting non-Christians. The 15% atheists are making the most noise, while the 85% silent majority is getting trodden down. Christians! Awake! Your Saviour comes!! Stand up and be counted, or face extinction.

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66.KodiakRed
34 Minutes ago
Ok everyone. there is one small point : THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY not a oppressed muslim state. We celebrate Christmas in this country. If you find it offensive, then LEAVE for the Xmas holidays. We wont stop you, Love having you here, but because this is a democracy, ( not an dictatorship) you have choices....stay and join in, or let us do wnat we want.....or leave... Here Horse....

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5.Simon Attwood
2 Hours ago
4.Wannabeyankee
"The # atheists are making the most noise"

This does seem to be the case. I wonder what their motive and agenda is?
To impose their values and convictions upon others? Isn't that the same motive and agenda that has caused every religious war we have ever had?

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82.jugglingjoe
27 Minutes ago
Comment to Rockahula.

Its not a Pagan festival...maybe it 'was' a time of year that a pagan festival was held hundreds of years ago, but Christmas is a Christian festival now. My birthday is on the 4th of July. Just because I celebrate my birthday on that day doesn't mean that I am celebrating Independance day for America.

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120.Quartus45
9 Minutes ago
It's not Christmas that's under attack per se, it's CHRISTmas - the very name of our Saviour is treated as a swearword and the bigots are trying to obliterate even the mention of the Lord. Still, this is to be expected as this attitude was prophesied to take place at this particular time in history.

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51.liarbbc
41 Minutes ago
The left wing BBC is fond of reporting rubbish like this & trying to make a story from nothing.

Back in 1998 they did the same.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/210672.stm

The UK celebrates Christmas....end of.

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53.tony
39 Minutes ago
All my friends who profess to be atheists are celebrating Christmas one way or another.
Do they not realise that the "Christ" in Christmas has some theist connotations???

I wish everyone peace at Christmas and may God help you all fulfil your dreams for the New Year.

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46.RedFox
43 Minutes ago
I don't think that the majority of Athiests are against Xmas - frankly I don't think they give a damn - and I respect them for that. The people in the US who keep trying to stop Government Public Displays are your plain old miserable crap stirers who want to create mayhem. They nothing on their mind, other than forcing their views on others. We Christians should ignore them.

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18.Steve_Jobs_Is_Dead
1 Hour ago
Why is it atheists seem to be the new repressives? So you don't want to hear about X religion's festivals? So what? Stop whining!

I see regular references to Jewish, muslim, Hindu and Sikh festivals in the press and treat them as you should treat Christmas- I just ignore them and let those who want to celebrate.

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24.Kingsley O
Comment number 24 is an Editors' Pick
56 Minutes ago
Recent movement to ban Xmas and references to Xmas in public places except churches and private homes, is political correctness gone awry. I bet this zealots dare not seek a ban on Hannukah or any Jewish holidays from public place. I must add, it is sad that most religious holidays/celebration have lost their true meaning to commercialization and materialism.

It's funny but I walked down the local high street last Saturday and there wasn't a Christmas reference to eb seen. Apart from all those signs. And lights. And trees. And tinsel. And Santas. And...actually, you know what Kingsley, you're talking crap.

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68.nautonier
34 Minutes ago
Stephen Nissenbaum

He got his right to free speech from UK being a non-extreme Christian country - its values, traditions, customs & being a bastion of emancipation.

He should never ever forget that - and thank whatever he is capable of thanking that we have a Christmas as a symbol of where & how we got our freedoms of free speech, assembly etc.

If ever we lose Christmas - we go backwards

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71.weston_front
32 Minutes ago
The birth of Jesus in human form achieved many things. One of these was the end of legalism and a call to live according to principles not rules. He encouraged thought, and I would think happy to see this debate. The comments from many non Christians about the value of community and simplicity is great to hear - you are closer to being Christlike that you might want to admit. Happy Christmas.

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100.col
Comment number 100 is an Editors' Pick
24 Minutes ago
I was horrified that cards with religeous significance or even using the word christmas were hard to find. eventually I found 10 cards with a religeous symbol but not the word christmas.

They were the only 10 there

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75.Eddie_G
29 Minutes ago
I never thought I would live long enough to see an article like this. Stomp Political Correctness into the ground where it belongs. Say Merry Christmas whenever you please. Tell anybody who doesn't like it to go to the Devil.

I'll mention it in around July then. See if it goes down well...

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77.64 75 80 and still waiting
28 Minutes ago
@ 23
25 Minutes ago

Perhaps the Daily Mail don't have it completely wrong. Here in Wales (Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council to be exact.) those headlines wouldn't be too far off the mark. My local Community Centre held a Christmas Fete recently - in order to qualify for funding from the Council the word 'Christmas' was not allowed to appear on flyers, advertising, etc.

I'm calling bullshit on that.

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129.nautonier
4 Minutes ago
Many confused by the rabid atheists do not understand that the rights & freedoms which they enjoy are the product of Christianity - Christian values, beliefs, worship, spirituality

The BBC Guardian feeds their ignorance - look around the world & see what you get in those countries which are not 'non-extreme' Christian countries - perhaps even the BBC will notice the differences

God bless!

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29.hardworkedandunderpaid
1 Hour ago
Can someone explain to me why a country that has celebrated Christmas / the birth of Jesus for so long, should suddenly stop because a few miserable bigots don't like it?
They are just sick if the sight of the navity makes them unhappy.
I am offended by the term partner. I am not single, not gay and not shacked up, but this won't be changed for me will it.
FED UP WITH PC

Lord Brett · **Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:35 pm

I'm even happier that my copy of The God Delusion just arrived today from Amazon.

daveinbrum · **Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:49 pm

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The 15% atheists are making the most noise, while the 85% silent majority is getting trodden down.

So, 85% of people will be in Church this Christmas? No, thought not.

Abernathy · **Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:06 pm

Lord Brett wrote:

I'm even happier that my copy of The God Delusion just arrived today from Amazon.

A most enjoyable read, LB. If you've not already read it, Hitch's God is not Great is even more entertaining.

lambswool · **Joined:** Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:39 pm **Posts:** 184

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77.64 75 80 and still waiting
28 Minutes ago
@ 23
25 Minutes ago

Perhaps the Daily Mail don't have it completely wrong. Here in Wales (Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council to be exact.) those headlines wouldn't be too far off the mark. My local Community Centre held a Christmas Fete recently - in order to qualify for funding from the Council the word 'Christmas' was not allowed to appear on flyers, advertising, etc.

I'm calling bullshit on that.

I'm calling bullshit on it too. No way is any of that true. You can't bloody move for Christmas in Rhondda Cynon Taf. Who makes up these lies? :roll:

lambswool · **Joined:** Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:39 pm **Posts:** 184

^
Rhetorical question.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:46 pm

daveinbrum wrote:

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The 15% atheists are making the most noise, while the 85% silent majority is getting trodden down.

So, 85% of people will be in Church this Christmas? No, thought not.

It's confusing, isn't it? One minute we're told the Church of England are shit and it's no wonder no-one goes to church. The next...

shyamz · **Posted:** Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:26 am

As wanabeyankee (a c***s username if ever there was one) clearly seems to think all the 85% are practicing christians, what percentage do followers of other religions bring this total figure up to? 130, maybe 140%. Because there simply can't be that many christians in the UK, if there where church attendance figures would reflect that.

daveinbrum · **Posted:** Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:44 pm

shyamz wrote:

As wanabeyankee (a c***s username if ever there was one) clearly seems to think all the 85% are practicing christians, what percentage do followers of other religions bring this total figure up to? 130, maybe 140%. Because there simply can't be that many christians in the UK, if there where church attendance figures would reflect that.

The problem is, those who claim to follow Christian "values" without actually bothering to ever read the Bible (especially the inconvenient bits about loving your neighbour) or go to church. Hence the push at the last census to encourage people who didn't practice religion of any variety to say so.

Not sure if the results of that (or anything else in the census) have been announced yet. I haven't heard anything....

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