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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:19 pm 
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The standard of service in NHS hospitals is DREADFUL. When I vivsited my mother I fancied a snack as I hadn't eaten since lunch. I ordered a bacon sandwich but the nurse told me that it wasn't her job to make me one. What an attitude problem, what happened to "the customer is always right"? With such a chip on her shoulder she should be the first to go once it's privatised.
- MrMickRoach, England, 6/1/2012 10:35


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:39 pm 
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Wherever I attend hospital I don't stand any nonsense. I always demand that I see the one that speaks English and make sure that they know who's in charge. These vile scroungers are our servants because WE contribute to society rather than look for handouts from the taxpayer. The NHS should be run for profit so that it contributes something useful.

- MrMickRoach, England, 6/1/2012 16:51
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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:42 pm 
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This is a classic.
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DM I'll tell what a damning indictment is; look on the nhs jobs website and notice there are next to no staff nurse jobs advertised yet the general opinion here is that there are not enough nurses to care for so many patients You will notice there are many useless, specialist jobs for ridiculous money It is also grossly unfair that nurses have no voice to respond to this absolute rubbish I expect the usual rubbish from Peter carter's mouth from the RCN: GROW A PAIR MAN AND STAND UP FOR THOSE YOU ARE MEANT TO REPRESENT!!!!
- NiknakStamford, Stamford, 06/1/2012 18:04


Right...

And a casual look at the NHS job site brings up 20 pages of Staff Nurse vacancies (or equivalent) with one hospital in Barnsley urgently requiring 12 posts to filled.

And then there's 'useless, specialist jobs' for the 'ridiculous money', like a Senior Clinical Physiologist specialising in the area of Cardio-Respiratory/Cardiac Catheter Suite that offers the princely sum of £25,528 to £34,189 pa.

The greedy bastards!

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:09 pm 
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Dacre Bleugh wrote:
oboogie wrote:
The standard of service in NHS hospitals is DREADFUL. When I vivsited my mother I fancied a snack as I hadn't eaten since lunch. I ordered a bacon sandwich but the nurse told me that it wasn't her job to make me one. What an attitude problem, what happened to "the customer is always right"? With such a chip on her shoulder she should be the first to go once it's privatised.
- MrMickRoach, England, 6/1/2012 10:35


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Come on, Own up.

I'm not sure about that one. MrMickRoach has form and not only on the Mail website. A google of his name reveals postings all over the place. He specialises in anti-Irish postings and claims he's ex-army, but no-one seems to believe him.
It would be ironic however, if it were true and, as a soldier, he was also a "vile" public sector "scrounger".

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Bring back matrons and hospital-trained nurses.
- Reubenene, Somewhere In The World, 6/1/2012 4:08
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I really feel the NHS needs to have some sort of 'mythbusters' page where it says, in big fuckoff letters, "MATRONS STILL EXIST IN HOSPITALS".

Similarly, do they think nurses just sit in lectures all the time? There is certainly a breed of mailite who hasn't moved beyond the 'Barbara Windsor in Carry on Doctor' view of nurses. I don't know if it's some sort of sexist "women, know your place" view of nurses, or genuine ignorance of the fact that medicine is really complicated and that nurses need to know what's going on so they can keep patients safe.


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
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I'd imagine that the hospital placements that they do as part of their university courses add up to far more hours training in hospitals than the old "hospital-trained" nurses mentioned by the poster. In fact, according to Coventry University's website, 40% of their 3-year course is spent on hospital placements.


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:42 pm 
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I think that for many an older male mailite the opporunity to visit a hospital as an in-patient should (in an ideal world) fulfil a number of fantasies.

First of all, there's the entire fetishised nurse's uniform thing. Pity they don't wear them any more.

Then there's the young pretty woman attending to your every need, refreshingly frank in her discussion of bits of the body (for an interesting comparison, Michael Crichton once theorised that one of the major attractions of prostitutes for Victorian men was their transcendence of normal social rules and etiquette - in other words they dressed and talked dirty). Preferably looks like a young Shirley Eaton or Barbara Windsor (or Joanne Whalley for some of us). Bedbath optional. Problem is, it doesn't really work like that, and you only get the bedbath on BUPA (apparently).

Finally, by Matrons, what they mean is specifically a very stern, disapproving woman in a fetishised outfit, doling out punishment to younger women for not keeping up to her exacting standards. While the man watches. From his bed. Go on. Say sorry for not keeping the ward clean enough. Mop it up. Mop it all up. Mop it with your tongue.

Fuck it, they could do themselves a favour by just renting the DVD instead...

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:03 pm 
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I think one of the problems is not all trusts use the term matron.

Charge Nurse, Clinical Nurse Manager, Senior Sister, Matron & many others can all be used interchangeably and effectively have the same duties. I'm not sure any PR the NHS could produce would change the attitude of Mailites as their view of the world is clearly not one based in evedence.

I think the DMs view of modern nursing is somewhat rooted in misogyny. In the good old days nurses where generally seen as being either timid & subservient, doing typical 'women's work' (cleaning, making cups of tea, generally all the jobs the doctors didn't have time to bother with) or the tyrannical matriarchal Matron figure of an older childless women kicking everyone else into touch. These days nurses are highly trained clinicians in their own right and that as Mailites believe is something that is not the preserve of young (often working or lower middle class) women.

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
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I think the nurse fetish (where I'm convinced this largely comes from) relies a lot on the image of the wartime nurse (think Deborah Kerr in The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp*) being, to put it bluntly and sexistly, a bit of posh totty.

Who dresses in uniform and talks dirty**. But definitely a 'respectable' job for a young unmarried woman until the hero (or mailite) comes along and sweeps her off her feet.

*See also Jenny Agutter in AAWIL, Miranda Richardson in Blackadder Goes Forth etc etc.

**and fiddles with your parts until they go off. If you're on BUPA (apparently).

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:13 pm 
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Isn't there also a gender-prejudice thing going on?
'Sisters', 'Matrons' - suggests to me that these enthusiasts are seeing nursing/caring as being exclusively female traits. Which opens a window onto a whole Victorian weltenschauung, oppression, know-your-placing and so on. Social conservatives R us.


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AndyMcDandy - You've given this nurse fetish angle a lot of thought then? :)


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
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I say nurse fetish, Malcolm says Gender prejudice :lol: . It all amounts to the same thing. Subservient women doing menial and demeaning tasks, many involving bodily functions and fluids.

In short, many a Mailite will only be happy with the NHS when it resembles a particular masturbation fantasy for them, rather than an actual health service. They are (I hope) destined for disappointment.

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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
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Yes, except I think that it is a sign of something much darker, that whole stereotyped, blinkered, prejudiced view of society as a series of hierarchies and disabilities. Like the medieval cosmic dance, but nastier.


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:59 pm 
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I'd imagine that the hospital placements that they do as part of their university courses add up to far more hours training in hospitals than the old "hospital-trained" nurses mentioned by the poster. In fact, according to Coventry University's website, 40% of their 3-year course is spent on hospital placements.


its 50/50. 2300 hours minimum ( a lot of universities go over this to make sure they cover any sickness and whatnot), of theory and the same in practice otherwise you are unable to register as a nurse.


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 Post subject: Re: NHS bashing
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Double-barrelled attack today...

Damning report finds many NHS staff lack the ability and compassion to do their job

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... n-job.html

And we've got this one:

'I feel like Zac's country has let him down': Cancer boy, 7, forced to travel to Germany for lifesaving operation

* Parents have spent £10,000 taking Zac abroad for immediate treatment for neuroblastoma, a rare form of cancer that only affects children


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... ation.html

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The NHS paid for this in Germany...

...Miss Knighton added: ‘I feel the NHS has let my son down at every stage. It is incredible that I have to go to Germany.


Damn the EU and those health tourists.

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