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 Post subject: US takes another step towards becoming a medieval theocracy
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:12 am 
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http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... eason.html

Seriously, what the cunting fuck are these people thinking?

Im beginning to think that secularism, far from being overly militant, isnt being militant enough.

I woke up in a good mood this morning, now im just angry.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:41 pm 
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visage wrote:
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/02/virginia_ultrasound_law_women_who_want_an_abortion_will_be_forcibly_penetrated_for_no_medical_reason.html

Seriously, what the cunting fuck are these people thinking?

Im beginning to think that secularism, far from being overly militant, isnt being militant enough.

I woke up in a good mood this morning, now im just angry.


I think they'd like to go toe-to-toe with Iran on equal terms.


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And then there's Oklahoma.

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Won't that fail on appeal to the Supreme Court? On the grounds that the Court has already decided that abortion is legally acceptable and that women have a right to choose?


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I've stopped trying to predict what local or national legislature in the US'll do, regardless of what it says on paper. :roll: :(

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But it's only like a breathalyzer.....


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Something ive never seen these fundamentalist bastards questioned on is how they square their view of the sanctity of life, with their willingess to support imperialist wars.

They're willing to say 'Its not the baby's fault that its father was a rapist'. but if some drone attack kills some innocent children then thats acceptable collateral damage.

Maybe im missing some theological/ethical subtlety here, but it seems to me to be a pretty basic contradiction - and one that no candidate is ever picked up on.


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Oh, and on the same note - the death penalty.


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To Republicans all life is sacred from the moment of conception to the the time of birth


Not sure who first said this but sums it up rather nicely.

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Samanfur wrote:
And then there's Oklahoma.

And then there's this douchebag:

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Andrea Mitchell, MSNBC anchor: Do you have any concerns about some of [Rick Santorum's] comments on social issues, on contraception, on women in combat, and whether or not that would hurt his viability in a general election campaign, would he be the nominee?

Foster Friess, conservative corporateer and funder of Santorum campaign: Well, I'm [laughs] I get such a chuckle when these things come out. Here we have millions of our fellow Americans unemployed, we have jihadist camps being set up in Central, in, uh, Latin America, which, uh, Rick has been warning about, and people seem to be so preoccupied with sex. So I think it says something about our culture—we maybe need a massive therapy session so we can concentrate on what the real issues are. And this contraceptive thing—my gosh, it's so, it's such inexpensive—you know, back in my days, they used Bayer Aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn't that costly.

[Dead air while Friess sits there grinning like a jackass.]

Mitchell: Uh, excuse me; I'm just trying to catch my breath from that, Mr. Friess, frankly.

[Friess laughs heartily.]


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Top Ten Catholic Teachings Santorum Rejects while Obsessing about Birth Control

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The right wing Republican politicians who have been denouncing the requirement that female employees have access to birth control as part of their health benefits as an attack on religious freedom completely ignore the church teachings they don’t agree with. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are both Catholics, and wear their faith on their sleeves, but they are hypocritical in picking and choosing when they wish to listen to the bishops.

1. So for instance, Pope John Paul II was against anyone going to war against Iraq I think you’ll find that Rick Santorum managed to ignore that Catholic teaching.

2.The Conference of Catholic Bishops requires that health care be provided to all Americans. I.e., Rick Santorum’s opposition to universal health care is a betrayal of the Catholic faith he is always trumpeting.

3. The Catholic Church opposes the death penalty for criminals in almost all situations. (Santorum largely supports executions.)

4. The US Conference of Bishops has urged that the federal minimum wage be increased, for the working poor. Santorum in the Senate repeatedly voted against the minimum wage.

5. The bishops want welfare for all needy families, saying “We reiterate our call for a minimum national welfare benefit that will permit children and their parents to live in dignity. A decent society will not balance its budget on the backs of poor children.” Santorum is a critic of welfare.

6. The US bishops say that “the basic rights of workers must be respected–the right to productive work, to decent and fair wages, to the organization and joining of unions…”. Santorum, who used to be supportive of unions in the 1990s, has now, predictably, turned against them.

7. Catholic bishops demand the withdrawal of Israel from Palestinian territories occupied in 1967. Rick Santorum denies that there are any Palestinians, so I guess he doesn’t agree with the bishops on that one.

8. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops ripped into Arizona’s law on treatment of immigrants, Cardinal Roger Mahony characterized Arizona’s S.B. 1070 as “the country’s most retrogressive, mean-spirited, and useless anti-immigrant law,” saying it is based on “totally flawed reasoning: that immigrants come to our country to rob, plunder, and consume public resources.” He even suggested that the law is a harbinger of an American Nazism! Santorum attacks ‘anchor babies’ or the provision of any services to children of illegal immigrants born and brought up in the US.

9. The Bishops have urged that illegal immigrants not be treated as criminals and that their contribution to this country be recognized.

10. The US Conference of Bishops has denounced, as has the Pope, the Bush idea of ‘preventive war’, and has come out against an attack on Iran in the absence of a real and present threat of an Iranian assault on the US. In contrast, Santorum wants to play Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove and ride the rocket down on Isfahan himself.

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 Post subject: Re: US takes another step towards becoming a medieval theocr
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Won't that fail on appeal to the Supreme Court? On the grounds that the Court has already decided that abortion is legally acceptable and that women have a right to choose?


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_Roe_v ... e_reversed

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Oh, and on the same note - the death penalty.


My biggest issue with the death penalty in the US is the overwhelming amount of black people who end up on death row.

You would not think we have a black president.

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America is heading towards theocracy because people who wave the flag claim to be patriots when they wipe their asses on the constitution... Well the first amendment at least....

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 Post subject: Re: US takes another step towards becoming a medieval theocr
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I do sometimes wonder just of how much worth the USA's constitutional separation of church and state is. Particulary when you consider that the US quite possibly the most religiose state on the planet. By contrast, the UK is in all but name a secular state, in spite of having
a constitionally estblished church.

Curious.

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