I don't think they'll be wiped out. They'll lose most of the people who voted for them in 2010 but I think they'll gain support from disaffected Tory 'wets' who want a protest vote but, for reasons of dogma/tradition, would never contemplate voting Labour.

Why won't the boundary changes happen?

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Because it's not worth doing. They thought it would mainly hit Labour and depopulated northern seats. It actually hits a few senior Tories (eg IDS) and their coalition allies as well. And the principle of dividing into equally sized seats will yield some farcical constituencies that will make them look stupid- eg Gloucester won't have either the cathedral or docks, nor indeed much of the city centre.

I really can't see the Lib Dems voting for this. They'll just concede a load more hard right stuff to keep their seats.

btw, I don't think the "vote for X" he's neither Lab nor Tory thing will work for the Lib Dems like last time. And indeed every other time before that.

To be honest, I'm not sure there are that many one-nation Heathite types left in the modern-day Tory party's support base - there are a few touchy-feely Tories, granted, but on economic policies there's little to separate them from the Tory hard right. I can't really see how the Lib Dems' current strategy is going to win them any friends, really. Disaffected left-leaning voters won't touch them with a bargepole in 2015 and the more liberal-minded Tories will most likely stick with Cameron - leaving the Lib Dems with tactical voters and a few remaining right-wingers who don't have the bottle to vote Tory. The way I see it, Clegg will step aside after the next election and open the door for someone like Tim Farron to take the reins of whatever's left of the Lib Dems. A poisoned chalice if ever there was one.

I've also noticed that the Lib Dems have been stepping up their attempts to rehabilitate fraudster David Laws over the last couple of weeks, no doubt with a frontbench role in mind following a future reshuffle. This must be that 'new politics' Cleggie promised us.

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Bid-cut ... story.html

The Lib Dems: circling the political plughole since May 2010.

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Farron's got a small majority, and hasn't done nearly enough to separate himself from the Tories.

I should probably point out I'm not endorsing the bloke but there's enough distance between him and the Clegg camp to make him a contender, I reckon. His speech at their party conference last year seemed to me to be a thinly-veiled attempt to separate himself from the leadership. Ed Davey appears to be the Cleggites' favoured replacement, from what I've read.

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Andrew George may survive in St Ives....

If they collaspe here in Swansea then they are in right shit, all suggestions say they are bullish but as I've said to a couple of them I can see a scenario like Labour in the southwest were even hardened well respected councillers got kicked out.

Yeovil used to have Paddy Ashdown and now the orange book 'liberal' David Laws. He might survive. Although, I'm not totally convinced.

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Well, I sincerely hope they are fucking annihilated.

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Not many Labour votes in making a mischevious speech at a conference. He's hampered by holding a party position. Resign that and he could rebel and hold on.

Laws will lose for the expenses fiddle alone.

Andrew George is seen as Kernow to most down in St Ives anyhow, he's been very critical of the Lib Dems I guess he will wait to see how the council elections go in 2013 if they get wiped out he will probably rebel or go Independent. The Lib Dems haven't a chance down here without him espically if he stands. The alternative is a smary christian fundamentalist. If George went Independent he would win but I reckon council elections in 2013 will dictate that.

My boss reckons they will be wiped out to about 25 in 2015 but as he said he reckons no one will get a majority so as Clegg is hoping he will still be a "kingmaker" that is basically what they are holding on for, the problem is he would be very much in the Brown position if Labour came in as the biggest party.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... inequality

DIAF, David Laws.

Sample quote, "George Osborne is proving to be a very strong chancellor who gets the big decisions right. When he looks carefully at his budget choices, he will surely conclude that the case for bringing forward tax cuts is overwhelming." Wotacunt.

Difficult to work out what would happen to Vince in Twickers, if indeed he stands again. I've talked to quite a lot of people who voted for him in the past who are very hacked off indeed about him and his friends enabling a Conservative government; however there may be enough pinko types who will vote for him tactically to keep the Conservative out, particularly if he were able to offer satisfactory guarantees that he would never be so misguided again.

Forgive my cynicism, but surely that would simply be impossible?

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Why would anyone vote Lib Dem tactically to keep a Tory out?

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