If you're really, really thick it must be very comforting to have a newspaper reassuring you that you're not that bad really.
The Mail understands that, it knows it's readership and knows the buttons to push to part them from their cash.

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Olden days were the golden days before the health and safety nazis caused a decline in our industrial sector that we have never recovered from. Helmets? Safety boots? Risk assessment? All stuff and nonsense sir!

I'm interested in genealogy and discovered that my paternal great grandfather died in a diving bell accident in Dover Harbour at the turn of the 20th century. 15 years later my maternal great grandfather died when a crane collapsed as he was working on the Albert Dock (he was a gunner in the RA and had survived a few uprisings by revolting natives in India during the 19th century) . My maternal grandfather died early in the 1950s but that was due to being gassed by the Boche in the First Unpleasantness. My dad was killed in a wholly preventable industrial accident in the 1960s. It would have not happened now. The good old days, eh? The Toffs are now trying to push back health and safety to make it cheaper for our businesses to run and compete with the Far East.

FTFY.

You can't go around accusing right-wing "legitimate political parties" of doing anything bad. Oh no, you've got to twist it in someway and move the blame to something you have only vaguely heard of but actually know nothing about, apart from [you think] it had something to do with those dirty commies in the former DDR (or East Germany as "we" like to call it). And they were bad (or something) and they were Krauts too. But not the nice kind of Krauts that "we" like. Or something. I think.

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Good point well made. I think my granddad might have something to say about the German industrial machine that fed the First Unpleasantness and aided and abetted the aforesaid gassing. Mind you, it took nearly fifty years to succumb to the effects and aided and abetted by a 20 Capstan Full Strength-a-day habit.

It's not just H&S. My dad died at a younger age than I am now due to a hereditary illness that in these supposedly inferior times can be controlled by nothing more than the occasional pill.

I wouldn't have the slightest problem with anyone who wants to live on deep-fried lard sandwiches dipped in sugar doing do, if they would refrain from screaming the place down and blaming anyone other than themselves when they or their relatives on the same diet cark it at 55. In fact you could put it down to them being contenders for the Darwin Award.

How do you feel about the costs of their health care and how to spread these? I'm not getting all health nazi but I do think that the NHS is under threat and at the same time many people are storing up astronomically expensive problems which are sometimes avoidable, thereby increasing the risk to it's ongoing existence. I'm not talking about people who have addictions or comfort eat through grief. Just everyday hedonism. Yes, the population has risen and this needs to be factored in. But we've known about smoking being harmful for a heck of a long time. Likewise, too much booze and too much saturated fat, lack of exercise, etc. The 5-a-day deniers who claim only junk food is affordable, despite being considerably more expensive than cooking healthy from scratch, when really they like the convenience and taste.

You put more money into community care, healthy eating schemes, preventative medicine. Rather than cutting it as the Government has.

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Clearly the issue of self-inflicted harm needs addressing but surely this can be done through education and/or taxation as with smoking.
If we single out groups to be exempt from the NHS principle of "free at the point of need" there is a danger that it is the thin end of the wedge. If we start with the obese, the smokers and the heavy drinkers we risk a snowball effect towards pressure to exclude others from free treatment.
I'm going to get all Niemöller on your arse as I can just imagine the Mailities now:
"What about sporting injuries? Why should I pay for a skier's broken leg or a joggers spinal injuries? Surely these too are avoidable injuries as a result of lifestyle choices?"
"What about twisted/sprained ankles from wearing high heels?"
"What about RTA casualties which are victims of their own reckless driving? Or cyclists?(motor or pedal)."
Hell, it could be argued that pregnancy is a lifestyle choice, it certainly isn't a disease or injury, should charges be introduced for that?

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Or people with eating disorders who've been bombarded with contradictory information about what they should and shouldn't eat?

How can you even begin to separate addictions from "everyday hedonism"? It's the same problem the temperance movement faced. I binge on food when I'm miserable. It can last for weeks. I know it makes me feel worse in the end, but what makes it enjoyable is that I know it's wrong. It's a big fuck you to the diet industry, a still bigger fuck you to anyone who wants to judge me by how thin I am. I don't have much autonomy as an individual human adult. It's as a consumer that I express my displeasure and disregard for authority. I do so by eating bad things I like.

It's not me that's unhealthy; it's the world I live in. For as long as we have an NHS, that world is forced to pay for some of its privileges by funding the healthcare of the people it fucks over.

I'm not suggesting that people be exempted from provision. However, I am a big believer in adults being responsible for the consequences of their actions whilst taking context into account.

It would be dreadful for the NHS to collapse under the strain of dealing with avoidable stuff when you consider what this would mean for the rest of their workload. Regardless of who is in power this is what is in the pipeline.

There are various means of diagnosing addiction. Everyday hedonism also exists. You can be storing up serious problems for the future without being dysfunctional in the present.

The lack of autonomy in peoples' lives might be better addressed by changing society. Here we have a government intent on building it's vicious values into the fabric of our society.

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WHEN WE WAS BRUNG UP PROPER - well, firstly we clearly weren't taught proper grammar, for a start. It also raises a smirk that the Mail is claiming this to be something fresh and new when any old Facebook status for at least five months has been churning out this sort of babble from the hospital bed.

Step forward the estimable SewerUrchin, who somehow refrained from vomiting when posting this on the "Facebook Statuses" thread at the start of September LAST YEAR:



Oh, yeah. Fresh and new.

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Had! Had! I've still got only 4 channels! No Freeview until May, and I can't be arsed to get a satellite dish.

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