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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:56 pm 
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Didn't notice it on the front page. Kept off by something about Livingstone campaigning in outer London- shock! Complete with nasty editorial that Livingstone had done nothing for outer London as mayor. London Overground and massive improvement in buses weren't mentioned.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:54 pm 
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Robert Peston (best buds with Will 'Thirsty' Lewis, lest we forget) is still doing Murdoch's dirty work, it would seem. The Digger really can't let go of Cable's BSkyB comments, can he?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17276201

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Vince Cable says in a private letter to the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister that the government lacks "a compelling vision of where the country is heading beyond sorting out the fiscal mess" and also does not have a "clear and confident message about how we will earn our living in future".

In a brutally frank analysis of what he sees as the shortcomings in the government's industrial and economic policies, the Business Secretary describes a whole raft of initiatives as "piecemeal", "not followed through systematically", "missing valuable opportunities", lacking "a clear strategy for how to address the pressing issues," and showing "no connected approach across government".


Personally, I don't know what Cable is complaining about - the government's vision for Britain seems perfectly clear:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:06 pm 
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Couldn't help but have sympathy with this comment:

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The first line of this report includes the words "private letter". So clearly this material has been stolen. I sincerely hope the BBC is not stooping to publishing material obtained in a criminal manner, as the gutter press does. I have no brief whatever for Mr Cable or Mr Cameron, but their private correspondence should remain so.



I don't think it's stolen - it's either come from Cable or Cameron's people, if you ask me. Either way, it feels wrong that the BBC are printing this stuff.

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Another example of "I have no brief for..." meaning Oh hell yes I do.

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I can't believe that the police have cocked up again.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/06/leveson-inquiry-concern-police-evidence

I've no doubt MacKenzie will be on every TV programme going tomorrow trying to make the most of this potential gaffe.

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On Twitter.

Sue Akers under investigation ?

As with most Twitter feeds, complete musing.

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I can't believe that the police have cocked up again..
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The oath is clear. The Truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Whether, they have been gaming the system or not, that seems to be a reasonable defence to me.

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News Corp. Obstruction Evidence Mounts
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The latest disclosure in a series, made last week, involved a 2006 e-mail that detailed hacking at News of the World........... It showed Brooks, while editor of ........The Sun, had been told by police that hacking victims were more widespread than [NI] had admitted -- and included Brooks herself.

The e-mail, sent between two News of the World managers, suggests that from the beginning of the phone-hacking scandal, there was a conspiracy among senior executives to deceive the police and a separate, parliamentary probe into phone hacking.

The most significant of the revelations involves James Murdoch, the former News International executive chairman who, until last August, was widely considered to be the heir apparent to his father, Rupert Murdoch, as chief executive of News Corp.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-0 ... ation.html

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Two senior journalists at News International in apparent 'suicide attempt' following arrests

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1oQm749R6

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Two senior journalists at News International in apparent 'suicide attempt' following arrests

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1oQm749R6



Bless 'em. They could dish it out but not take it. I wonder how many innocent people who were harassed by the media attempted suicide?

Any which way up, interesting morning at the Leveson Inquisition (nobody expected it, apparently). Lord Blair was up and it was interesting to hear his account of the way he dealt with the media ie keep them at arms leg rather than embrace them like a red hot lover which is how his predecessors did. This did not go down too well at Dacre's Towers and Blair hinted that this was the reason why he got such a mauling from them during his tenure. He also mentioned his book so many times it was getting embarrassing.


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Lord Blair was up and it was interesting to hear his account of the way he dealt with the media ie keep them at arms leg


I'd like to have seen that. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:27 pm 
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This is been posted before?

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/03/05/boris-deputy-politically-intervened-to-stop-hacking-inquiry/

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Two senior journalists at News International in apparent 'suicide attempt' following arrests

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1oQm749R6


It is, of course, terrible that they feel depressed enough to attept suicide, but did they feel overwhelming remorse for the shitty things they did to innocent people on behalf of News International, or because they got caught?

Sorry, but I'm not feeling much like giving them the benefit of the doubt right now.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here. Undoubtedly, hacks at the Sun and elsewhere have hounded members of the public and, most probably, to the point of suicide.

That doesn't make them all the same though. Any reasonable person would agree that Mystic Meg and Clive Goodman are vastly different beasts despite being on the same payroll. Whilst the shades of grey are subtler, it also follows that not all news reporters are the same.

For the avoidance of doubt; I am not feeling particularly charitable to NI either. But, unless these two who have made attempts on their own life are subsequently shown to have been guilty of serious wrong-doing, then all we are doing is generalising, speculating and apportioning guilt by association. I'd like to think that we're better than that.

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