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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:18 pm 
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Just when you thought the cunts couldn't get any more cunt-ish. They're throwing people with disabilities out of work.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17288762

Un - FUCKING- believeable.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:40 pm 
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Norman Smith on the BBC just called the decision 'fraught'.

Not 'callous', 'immoral',' barbaric' or even just 'wrong' - he said, as chief political editor of the BBC that it was 'fraught'.

No wonder they're getting away with feckin' murder.


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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
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Cameron and co have been very quick to claim credit for the 2000 jobs being created at Nissan but are not so keen to accept blame for this absolutely diabolical decision.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
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I'm sure Iain Duncan Smith has plenty of workfare places ready and waiting for them. Paying people to do a job is communist now, after all.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Remploy seems to have been slowly run down for years, even under Blair, but this looks like an attempt to make it too small to make any money, before shutting it down completely. Surely it's cheaper to have their workers making stuff and earning money than throwing them on the dole.

But, of course, the Tories don't do industry.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:30 pm 
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Surely it's cheaper to have their workers making stuff and earning money than throwing them on the dole.


Not if you find a reason to not pay them dole.

edit: can't blame the coalition for the closure of Remploy round here, mind

http://www.remploy.co.uk/content/news/closure-of-remploy-medway-confirmed.ashx

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:22 pm 
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My other half works next door to our Remploy, and says that most of the building is now used by other companies. Apparently there were once 50 people working there, and there's now 15, so it's been in decline for a while.

That said, I have heard that disability charities are sort-of pleased, saying that the idea of Remploy is outdated. I quite agree that we shouldn't have to have special companies to employ disabled people because no-one else will, and nowadays we probably don't. But putting anyone out of work is not going to help. It must only be worse in less affluent areas of the country (that makes me sound incredibly out of touch, but I know what I mean)


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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
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I'll be honest, I never heard of them until today myself. However there is at least one small business owned locally that is run by the local health & social care trust that hires people with disabilities to make horticultural products and crafts. It was threatened with closure a few years ago but it's been kept open and looks to be safe for the foreseeable future.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:32 pm 
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satnav wrote:
Cameron and co have been very quick to claim credit for the 2000 jobs being created at Nissan but are not so keen to accept blame for this absolutely diabolical decision.


I believe it's 400 at Nissan, with the balance of 1600 to follow from connected businesses.


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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:13 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:39 am 
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6.41pm: Here's the breakdown of that government defeat on ESA eligibility for disabled young people. The "contents" are those peers who voted in favour of the amendment.

Contents Total: 260
Bishops 4
Crossbench 68
Labour 178
Liberal Democrat 3
Other 7

Not Contents Total: 216
Conservative 144
Crossbench 10
Liberal Democrat 61
Other 1


^from The Guardian a few months back.

Conservative 144

Sociopaths indeed... :(

At least 50% of the media plus Labour should be banging this point home, but where are they? Can you vote Bishop at the next election? Unreal state of play. This really pissed of the right-wing establishment, because you know, many of them like to play that church-goer vibe... but the numbers there unmasked their true faith, that's for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:54 am 
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Esqui wrote:
That said, I have heard that disability charities are sort-of pleased, saying that the idea of Remploy is outdated. I quite agree that we shouldn't have to have special companies to employ disabled people because no-one else will, and nowadays we probably don't. But putting anyone out of work is not going to help. It must only be worse in less affluent areas of the country (that makes me sound incredibly out of touch, but I know what I mean)


Before the whole workfare thing blew up in their faces, the government was pushing to extend the program to the disabled. While I agree that it would be better to train the disabled to do jobs which aren't sheltered employment, it seems that unless there is some radically different plan up their sleeves, they were just planning to put them to work stacking shelves for free for "work experience".


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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
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 Post subject: Re: Remploy
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:53 pm 
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6.41pm: Here's the breakdown of that government defeat on ESA eligibility for disabled young people. The "contents" are those peers who voted in favour of the amendment.

Contents Total: 260
Bishops 4
Crossbench 68
Labour 178
Liberal Democrat 3
Other 7

Not Contents Total: 216
Conservative 144
Crossbench 10
Liberal Democrat 61
Other 1


^from The Guardian a few months back.

Conservative 144

Sociopaths indeed... :(

At least 50% of the media plus Labour should be banging this point home, but where are they? Can you vote Bishop at the next election? Unreal state of play. This really pissed of the right-wing establishment, because you know, many of them like to play that church-goer vibe... but the numbers there unmasked their true faith, that's for sure.


It's the whole eye of the needle thing though isn't it, they seem to ignore that particular quote from Matthew.


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