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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:11 pm 
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The left's not been short of alpha males- see also Tommy Sheridan. But they're not like Nazis at all.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:12 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
The left's not been short of alpha males- see also Tommy Sheridan. But they're not like Nazis at all.

What I meant was that the tactics are similar - tell people what they think they want to hear.

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If you want to know how low he can go look up Oona King and the 2005 election. King did a lot of good work Bethnal Green (and she's bang tidy!).

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:18 pm 
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I also think his remark that Labour were playing identity politics by having a "Pakistani Muslim" was cuntish.

The bloke was deputy leader of the council.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:19 pm 
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Maybe she fancies a go at Bradford West in 2015


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:21 pm 
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Maybe she fancies a go at Bradford West in 2015


Can't now. She got a seat in The Big School. Life peerage an all that! Well, I suppose she could if she really wanted to, but I bet she doesn't.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
The left's not been short of alpha males- see also Tommy Sheridan. But they're not like Nazis at all.

What I meant was that the tactics are similar - tell people what they think they want to hear.


All politicians do that. I don't get why it's particularly sinister for Galloway to do it. Do you reckon the Labour candidate was talking about Afghanistan all the time?


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:26 pm 
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If you want to know how low he can go look up Oona King and the 2005 election. King did a lot of good work Bethnal Green (and she's bang tidy!).


What did he do? I didn't see anything that clearcut. King supporting the Iraq War was all the explanation needed.

She was apparently a good caseworker on housing and stuff but she was in the government which was doing little about the housing shortage. So wouldn't say she did great stuff for us.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:29 pm 
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Martin Samuel not keen on Oona:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... r-all.html


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:31 pm 
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Galloway's been given some bragging room on the Graun:

This was Bradford's version of the riots
Bradford's peaceful democratic uprising that elected me comes from the wellspring of discontent that swept Britain last summer

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... n-of-riots

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
What did he do? I didn't see anything that clearcut. King supporting the Iraq War was all the explanation needed.


I'm only going on what I've read. Accusations of playing-up the anti-semitic thing with the Muslim population (King's half Jewish - well, just Jewish as it's on her mother's side).

There was a lot of talk about how good she was for the local community after she was defeated. Again, you'll know better than me and it could all have been Neo-Labour bullshit.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
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He's left-wing...


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:42 pm 
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What have you read, specifically?

I read something from Nick Cohen alleging a poster made her look like a decadent Western bird, but didn't see the actual poster anywhere in the constituency.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:48 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
What have you read, specifically?


It was seven years ago - I'm not frigging Rain Man. :lol:

This is what's on her Wiki entry. Yes, it's Wiki but there's plenty of citations.

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Bethnal Green and Bow with its almost 45,000 Muslims was Galloway's best chance to defeat Labour in what became a "bitter single issue campaign."[12] King described the contest as "one of the dirtiest ..we have ever seen in British politics" and complained of "quite disturbing" anti-semitic racial abuse.[14] She was the putative target of vegetable and egg throwers during a memorial service commemorating the second world war bombing of a block of flats with predominantly Jewish victims.[15] King claimed it was deliberate part of Respect's campaign,[16] but Galloway's campaigners denied racial abuse[14] accusing the Government of a "war on Muslims".[12] Galloway criticised Labour for a postal vote strategy that was "close to illegal if not illegal"[12] and Tower Hamlets council electoral office for publishing an electoral roll "so shot through with errors and anomalies... as to be almost meaningless."[14]
Both candidates were given police protection, King after her tyres were slashed and Galloway after a death threat.[12]
King lost the seat by 823 votes, a 26.2% swing from King to Galloway.[17] King said that whilst the war had been a major issue, false claims in the Bangladeshi press that she wanted to get rid of halal meat had played a part.[14] In 2010, King revealed that she was offered a ministerial job in 2000, if she spoke publicly against Ken Livingstone however she refused feeling it was too harsh on him despite her unreserved loyalty to the government. She was then told her ministerial career would begin in five years, at that time she had lost her seat which meant she was unable to join the government.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oona_King

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 General Election
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:58 pm 
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Those citations are just her being reported saying it in the first place, aren't they?

I remember the egg attack at the Jewish war dead ceremony. No evidence was produced anyone in Respect had anything to do with it.

The "war on Muslims" quote came from the debate (covered by radio) where Galloway came out with the bizarre soundbite "there should be a war on drugs, not a war on Muslims". It wasn't some kind of "Racist!" cry to silence criticism, as suggested in wiki there.


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