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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:39 am 
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I think the writer of this met some Labour Uncut people:

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I was talking to some Labour people who work in parliament the other day. They were young David Miliband supporters - but not members of his staff in any way - who really dislike Ken Livingstone, and want him to lose the election.

"Not just lose," one told me, "But get an absolute kicking."


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03 ... 87437.html

The mayoral election isn't remotely lost.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:58 am 
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Oh Imagine the responses if Galloway wins.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:09 am 
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mattomac wrote:
Oh Imagine the responses if Galloway wins.



That David Milliband would have romped home.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:18 am 
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Yeah of course missing the point totally. But when haven't they, I would expect based on this a Livingstone win


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:21 am 
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They have jobs in Parliament. That's the fucking worrying thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:42 am 
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LOL. Nothing if not predictable.

http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/03/30/is ... -miliband/

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This morning it’s a cold new world. But as the shock passes and the harsh reality of George Galloway’s crushing victory begins to sink in, the questions will become louder and more insistent. Two in particular will dominate: How could this happen? And what does it mean for the leader?

The party briefers will try to box this result as a freak. They will cite the combined effect of the swing from Labour towards Respect among the British Pakistani community and the collapse in Tory vote as a localised one-off.

They will be wrong.

The vote demonstrates two critical points: first, hell will freeze over before large numbers of Tories switch to Labour. After the week the Tories have had, it’s not surprising their vote was down. But Labour picked up no Conservative switchers and remains toxic to swing voters.


No mention of the 10-point poll lead from both YouGov and Comres this week. Nor the fact that Labour were trounced by a candidate standing on a platform well to the left of them. Do these people seriously think that David Miliband is going to resonate with voters in Bradford of all places?

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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:46 am 
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And some commentators are postulating Tory tactical voting...


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:11 am 
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Would the sort of person who votes Tory really switch to George Galloway of all people, even tactically? I'm not sure they would myself, at least not in numbers. It's worth noting, though, that the combined coalition vote came in at less than 15% - and the Tory vote collapsed by 22% - yet that's precisely the sort of direction Labour Uncut contributors want to take Labour in.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:28 am 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
And some commentators are postulating Tory tactical voting...


Ha, yeah. 'Tactical' voting.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:28 pm 
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... -its-life/

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This morning the Labour Party is no longer fighting to win the next election. It’s fighting to stay in existence.


Jesus wept.

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There are some people in the Labour movement who have been warning for some time of the looming threat on Labour’s Left flank. They – sorry, we – have also argued repeatedly that Labour’s small opinion-poll leads and previous by–election victories masked a growing political and structural vacuum at the centre of the party, one that the movements more militant elements were preparing to fill. We were dismissed as scaremongers, Blairite throwbacks, bitter disciples of our lost leader David Miliband.

Well, we may be all those things. But we weren’t wrong. The hard Left has filled the void all right. With a vengeance.


Labour just got battered in a safe seat by an anti-war, anti-austerity candidate. Hodges, however, still labours under the delusion that out-Torying the Tories is the only way forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
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http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi ... y-bradford

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Yet a single defeat in Bradford has led to some of the more hysterical members of the political blogosphere - yes, I'm looking at you Dan Hodges - saying things like "the Labour Party is no longer fighting to win the next election. It's fighting to stay in existence." Um. Ok. Last time I checked, the Labour Party had a double-digit lead in the opinion polls, the Tory-led coalition was presiding over a double-dip recession and psephologists were pointing out how Cameron needed a 7.4 per cent lead over Labour at the next election just to secure a single-seat majority in the Commons.


Brilliant piece by Mehdi Hasan and totally relevant to the discussion on the experts that frequent Labour Un-cut.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:02 pm 
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Zelo Street gives Hodges a thump.

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2012/ ... ation.html


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:32 pm 
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He's going to write about who he's going to vote for before polling day.

Set for a "why I'm joining the Tories" moment?


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:58 pm 
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If he canvasses votes for anyone other than a Labour candidate he's automatically out of the party. But then he should have been at least a year ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour Uncut
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:23 pm 
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He's not worth kicking out. It'll be better to let him have his Jerry McGuire moment.


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