BoJo says no!

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Last edited by Carlos The Badger on Thu Feb 31, 2021 18:60 am, edited 666 times in total.

Is that fact or a joke?
I'd hate to live in a world where he decides what I'm allowed to read.

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Both. I wanted to write "BoJo says no!" because it sounds funny but he has "... used his discretion as chair of TfL to instruct the transport body to ditch the advertising campaign which was due to appear on 25 buses driving around the capital next week."

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Last edited by Carlos The Badger on Thu Feb 31, 2021 18:60 am, edited 666 times in total.

What they claim is irrelevant if the basis is Gay Is Wrong.

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They are entitled to say Gay Is Wrong if they want to, it isn't illegal.

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Not only that but the the ASA have said the advert "does not infringe any advertising rules in the UK", so BoJo should wind his neck in.

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Last edited by Carlos The Badger on Thu Feb 31, 2021 18:60 am, edited 666 times in total.

Perhaps, but when they're proposing the cure to something that was declassified as a mental disorder and which has been proven via studies to be uncurable, I think that's what we class "a load of bollocks", and a highly destructive form at that.

It's not about sticking fingers up at homophobes, it's about protecting the vulnerable and ensuring the safety of those at risk of being faced with such "cures".

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That's a separate issue to the advertisement. Any attempt to force such a "cure" upon someone without their consent would be illegal.

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And how would they find out about the cure? Who would be responsible for allowing these adverts to appear on buses?

Sometimes you have to just say "No", and this is one of those times. Why should we allow these organisations to actively advertise their destructive, horrific, potentially-lethal services? "Come to us, we'll make you repress your sexuality so violently that you get depressed and end up killing yourself!"

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They are not forcing anything upon anyone though are they?
Adults are supposed to be free to make informed choices about themselves and their bodies.
If an adult (of sound mind) makes a stupid decision, then they are just that - stupid.

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I must say I'm with Young Winston and Charlie on this one. It isn't an incitement to violence or hatred, it is misguided and offensive, neither of which is (and never should be) illegal. Actually acting against another's interests is, of course, discriminatory. I accept that it will cause some people deep offence, and I am sorry about that, but I demand my rights to free speech and freedom of conscience and I must allow them to the less enlightened as well.

If these adverts are even hinting at a "cure" for homosexuality, they're wrong and shouldn't even be going to print in the first place, because - well - they're wrong. As in factually wrong, ethically wrong and so on and so forth.

It's nothing short of anti-gay propaganda. It's there to colour perceptions and try and make people believe it's a choice or even a disease that can be cured, which it isn't and which it can't.

Things like this hurt people, maybe not directly but they fuel ignorance and stupidity. Neither are a crime, but both are destructive.

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How does that work? Surely they should be as banned as ads claiming you can pray away baldness.

Who has the right to tell you what you can say and read?

Why shouldn't we? As I said nothing is being forced. Where is your evidence that their services are destructive, horrific and potentially-lethal?

Even if they actually used that line, I would not have a problem with it.
We have freedom of choice.

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You're seriously implying that repression of one's sexuality cannot (or may not) lead to depression, self-harm, suicidal feelings and even suicide itself?

I'm not talking about repression of free speech, and I've not said it should be restricted, but I'll clarify my position. We have a duty and a responsibility to all citizens of this country, and its visitors, to protect the vulnerable and those at risk. We need to have protections and safeguards in our advertising laws to protect people from snake-oil merchants and those who peddle potentially-lethal cures for any conditions as any medical and/or psychiatric treatment should be done by licensed professionals only, and those who are licensed and have practiced such "cures" in the past have generally been struck off or warned in some regard.

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