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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:32 pm 
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Contrary to popular belief, Scotland is a bit too large for us all to know each other.

I love telling people I'm from Colwyn Bay, invariably to be met with a wonderfully condescending look of pity buried beneath feigned interest. They then usually tell me how they have a cousin in Cardiff.

I went to the USA in 1971, and conversations with the locals always went like this.
"Where are you from?"
"Near Liverpool." (No point in naming a town they'd never heard of).
"Gee! Do you know the Beatles?"

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:37 pm 
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Ezinra, fair points. Turning ANY form of sexual assault into a joke is an awful thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:44 pm 
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I think the motivation behind the 'what about the assaults on men?' comments in an article that isn't about that subject is pretty obvious.

It's parallel is the 'what about the racist attacks on whites?' comments under articles about racist attacks by whites.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:19 pm 
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^ "What about me/them?!". No matter who an article is supposed to be about, there will always be those on the other side who want to act as if they are been ignored by society and the media.

I agree it shouldn't matter. The point should be how any form of abuse can be stopped and how any victim can be encouraged to come forward without feeling embarrassed or weak.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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'Got a quickie aborsh': Comedienne Sarah Silverman supports pro-choice debate, tweeting 'before-and-after abortion' photos

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So people were actually laughing at this? I am not for abortion but women who have abortions certainly would not think this is funny or make jokes about getting an abortion. Wow, a baby means nothing in this world, just another inconvenience... :(
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Blah blah blah.... etc. etc. .....

OK go for the jugular....

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Would it have been better for this child to have been aborted, all things considered, or should he/she been allowed to experience this?

Oh ... yeah... I agree that we should actually share a bit more to prevent this however this is considering all things.....

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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'I love my sugar daddy lifestyle!' Student, 21, who finds rich older man on controversial dating site gives up nursing dreams to pursue lucrative life as a 'sugar babe'

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SeekingArrangement was started in 2006 by American internet entrepreneur Brandon Wade.

He said: … 'Obviously the new tuition fees in the UK have made it really tough for students who are struggling with debts. What better way to sort out your financial problems than by dating a gorgeous sugar daddy?

Time to re-read those old capitalism-and-patriarchy arguments from my marxist sociology lecturers.

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It is prostitution, and this is what the majority of women want - a sugar daddy.

- peter, brighton, 14/4/2012 23:04 Rating 15
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Isn't this what most women do anyways? the ones that don't have careers?

- mick, Reading, 14/4/2012 22:12 Rating 11
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Ladies (I use the term loosely here)...when are you ever going to learn you are more than just a body, and life is more than one big party? Probably, when you're an old dried up prune and it's too late to start over; then you'll have realized you wasted it.

- anon, mercredi, 13/4/2012 18:04 Rating 342

Women are more than just a body? Am I reading the Mail?

Alone in a sea of judgement and misogyny:
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Good one DM commenters. Don't blame the dirty old men, don't blame society for being obsessed with female youth and beauty, and certainly don't blame yourselves or the government for making prostitution a more lucrative and fulfilling career than nursing. Nope, blame the woman. It's always the woman's fault.

- Bertie Wooster, London, UK, 15/4/2012 9:56 Rating 34


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:30 am 
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Wasn't sure where to put this, but here seems as good a place as any:

How would you look after a month with no cosmetics? We challenged one woman to ditch her entire beauty routine. The results were, to say the least revealing...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... z1swMftiP8

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Rifling through my wardrobe for the perfect ensemble to wear for a romantic dinner with my husband, a low-cut dress and strappy sandals catch my eye.

The outfit is sexy with a hint of old-school Hollywood glamour — very Scarlett Johansson. Unfortunately, my face is just plain scarlet and, while it destroys any seductive effect, there's nothing I can do to disguise it.

Because I have resolved to forgo make-up entirely — for a whole month.

Actually, it is not just make-up. I am undergoing a challenge that bans all forms of female grooming. It means no complexion-altering products (anti-wrinkle creams, eye creams, the lot), perfumes, dyeing, depilation, blow-drying, hair-straightening or conditioning. If it's not necessary for hygiene reasons, then it's not allowed.

So why have I — a self-confessed beauty addict — agreed to such a draconian, and humiliating, assignment?

Because a recent survey found two-thirds of women believe facing the world without full make-up is more stressful than a first date or a job interview. Many of these women were also unable to contemplate even the most mundane tasks (sitting on a train, for example, or answering the door) without selected areas having first been dyed, tinted or plucked.

In part, it seems to be an attempt to cash-in on the Samantha Brick piece:
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This anti-grooming mission has made me appreciate that my reliance on beauty treatments was a little excessive, but it's also shown me that in some respects the beautician's salon is a haven for a busy working mother. It's rare time to take a mental and physical break and do nothing more than collect your thoughts.

On a more serious note, it's also made me realise that women are highly disingenuous about the importance of looks.

We'll merrily tell our daughters that their naked faces are beautiful, while applying layers of make-up to our own skin. We have no problem taking a high moral stand along the 'no woman should be judged on her looks' lines, while simultaneously lampooning any famous female who appears in public looking unkempt.

With our constant judging of each other, we women are our own worst enemies.

The pursuit of beauty is both a joy and a curse. It is an expression of feminine sexuality and of individual taste. Yet it makes us self-conscious and competitive, eating up our time and money. It is, in many ways, an addiction — one I'll be enthusiastically resuming the moment this experiment is over.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:30 am 
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I'm sure Liz Jones wrote the same story a few months ago.

One of the women's mags ran the opposite experiment, getting some blokes to "do their faces" with beauty products every day for a month. It was quite interesting, and the results were remarkably similar to how women feel: a couple of the men began to feel scruffy and naked without make-up towards the end of the month, a couple of others couldn't wait to scrub it off forever.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 am 
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On the one hand the Mail has published this excellent article in which the wonderful Mary Beard savages the omnitwat that is AA 'Baboonkiller' Gill.
She makes a superb case for the natural, intelligent, forceful woman. I love her.

On the other hand they produce this piece of misogynist shite - woman stops wearing makeup, becomes harridan overnight. The comments suggest. however, that the readership is having none of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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Fury over BBC show live from abortion clinic: It'll just be an advert say pro-life lobby

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1sxDEHZx0

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Politicians and pro-life campaigners are warning that Radio 5 Live’s abortion broadcast could effectively end up ‘promoting the practice’.



Yes, abortions are just like M & S 'two dine for £10' offers - you hear about them on the radio and you rush to get one before the best stuff sells out.


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Conservative MP Nadine Dorries, who has previously tried to change the law on counselling offered to women having terminations, questioned the BBC’s impartiality on the issue.

She said: ‘It is not unlike the BBC to take a biased view on such issues. My view is that the licence-fee payer funds this so the BBC need to make sure that this programme is fair and balanced.

‘The alternative options need to be properly represented otherwise this will simply become promotion'


A 'promotion'- what like a BOGOF ? Mad Nad reverting to type I think.

She lures us in with her 'Ooh those nasty posh boys don't know what it's like in the real world, eh ladies?' then it's busy-body business as usual.

Off to watch Leveson for a bit of light relief. :x


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:58 pm 
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Imagine if "fair and balanced" meant that every programme had to give airtime to opponents of the very existence of its subject. I'd look forward to 'Star on a reasonably-priced folding bicycle' and 'Ross Kemp embedded with Campaign against the arms trade'.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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You know those kids who make unreasonable demands and then go into a paddy because you say no?
The way they say "You're not listening to me" when you are listening, you're just not agreeing?

That.


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
On the one hand the Mail has published this excellent article in which the wonderful Mary Beard savages the omnitwat that is AA 'Baboonkiller' Gill.
She makes a superb case for the natural, intelligent, forceful woman. I love her.

Ms Beard appears to write for the Mail regularly.

It saddens me.

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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
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Althea wrote:
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
On the one hand the Mail has published this excellent article in which the wonderful Mary Beard savages the omnitwat that is AA 'Baboonkiller' Gill.
She makes a superb case for the natural, intelligent, forceful woman. I love her.

Ms Beard appears to write for the Mail regularly.

It saddens me.


Saddening is a good word. She, and the very few other similar writers they pay, can be used to justify all the other bile, bigotry and hatred Dacre wants his other writers to spew. "See, we're fair and balanced, we have articles from people like Mary Beard".

Mary Beard either thinks she's getting a prize opportunity to put across a point of view that will challenge the typical Mail reader or doesn't care 'cos she'll quite happily trouser the £x00(0) from the Mail...


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 Post subject: Re: Lady bashing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Imagine if "fair and balanced" meant that every programme had to give airtime to opponents of the very existence of its subject. I'd look forward to 'Star on a reasonably-priced folding bicycle' and 'Ross Kemp embedded with Campaign against the arms trade'.


Or an atheist on Songs of Praise.

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