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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Looks as if Paul Massey's taking this politics gig a bit too seriously.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-17675446

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Police are investigating money laundering allegations involving Salford mayoral candidate Paul Massey.

Greater Manchester Police said five men, one of whom is understood to be Mr Massey, and a 55-year-old woman were arrested in December.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:32 pm 
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I don't know if it's the same everywhere else, but the Birmingham mayor's powers won't be decided until after any election. So Tory mayor = can declare war on Walsall, any other mayor = able to decide how often the bins are emptied.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:34 pm 
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That is astonishingly corrupt.

Blair would have liked to pull that stroke, I reckon. As I recall, he wanted a go-getting mayor, with a weak assembly to hold him to account.

Oh shit. Richard Branson didn't stand. And Ken Livingstone won.


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I can imagine what the Mail would have said if Blair had tried anything like that.

Latest speculation - Salma Yaqoob will be running.

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davidjay wrote:
I can imagine what the Mail would have said if Blair had tried anything like that.

Latest speculation - Salma Yaqoob will be running.



You may not be wrong. It would appear that Salma is not as unwell as was previously thought.

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Abernathy wrote:
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I can imagine what the Mail would have said if Blair had tried anything like that.

Latest speculation - Salma Yaqoob will be running.



You may not be wrong. It would appear that Salma is not as unwell as was previously thought.


Which is good news. It seems a pretty unedifying bunch of serious candidates so far.

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English Democrats in Salford putting up someone who'll fight cuts and cut council tax by 50%

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northe ... -donnygate


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Don't the council decide err the council tax?


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Don't the council decide err the council tax?


As far as I'm aware DEMs are responsible for setting the councils anual budget however their budget has to be passed by a majority vote by the elected councillors.

Doncaster's mayor Peter Green (fellow English Democrat & farther of Phillip) proposed a 3% cut a few years ago that was not only rejected by the vote but also lead the council to pass a vote of no confidence in him.

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DTR wrote:
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Don't the council decide err the council tax?


As far as I'm aware DEMs are responsible for setting the councils anual budget however their budget has to be passed by a majority vote by the elected councillors.

Doncaster's mayor Peter Green (fellow English Democrat & farther of Phillip) proposed a 3% cut a few years ago that was not only rejected by the vote but also lead the council to pass a vote of no confidence in him.


Birmingham's mayoral budget (don't know about elsewhere) will only need 1/3 of councillors to be approved.

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Personality based bollocks, as ever down here in London. And fraud, which is apparently Ken Livingstone's fault because it's happened in Tower Hamlets.

Hoping the assembly might yield some gains for Labour though.


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davidjay wrote:
DTR wrote:
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Don't the council decide err the council tax?


As far as I'm aware DEMs are responsible for setting the councils anual budget however their budget has to be passed by a majority vote by the elected councillors.

Doncaster's mayor Peter Green (fellow English Democrat & farther of Phillip) proposed a 3% cut a few years ago that was not only rejected by the vote but also lead the council to pass a vote of no confidence in him.


Birmingham's mayoral budget (don't know about elsewhere) will only need 1/3 of councillors to be approved.


That is quite worrying quite clearly set to dilute councils even more


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Then they complain when someone they don't like gets elected and acts like a "dictator".

Well, I had a look at The Week. It summarised reports on the London mayoral election, and somebody called Rachel Sylvester was rightly depressed with the negative campaigning. She went onto to say neither of the main candidates had any serious proposals to improve London. I'd say cheaper fares might actually improve London, but I'm an eccentric.

Is it too much to ask that journos actually read manifestos and not other media (who haven't read manifestos).


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Guess what? Boris, facing a proper interview, sent Kit Malthouse along instead, because of a "longstanding personal engagement".

Make that man PM.


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So, so wrong. Carl Chinn not only has no intention or running for mayor (and even if he did, he'd need to declare his candidacy so late he would have no chance), but he would not win. Birmingham is a city that in terms of the total number of votes cast, always votes Labour - even though, due to the vagaries of the ward boundaries, there has been a Tory/Lib Dem coalition running things for the past 8 years (with Labour remaining the largest party but unable to command an overall majority).

If there is an election for Mayor in Birmingham this November, it will be the Labour candidate that is elected.

And by the way, you don't think Carl is a Tory, do you? He famously never says how he votes, but I'm all but certain I know how he'll be voting on 3 May.


Whichever way he votes I'm sure he isn't a Tory. Old Labour would be my guess were there still such a thing.

Carl has never declared his intentions or otherwise of running for mayor, but anyone who knows him knows there's more that the image and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the day after nominations open he doesn't declare himself with a slick election machine ready to go. I think he would win because Labour in Birmingham are still in some turmoil and haven't captured the public imagination. His natural constituency is elderly white people, who as we've been told constantly since last week's Budget are the most likely to vote. And he would clean up the second preference votes.




I'm now in possession of some info that leads me to believe that Professor Chinn is actively preparing to swing into action if there is a YES vote. Lord knows why.

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