Phone Hacking

Andy McDandy · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:41 pm

Brian Reade today - out of Murdoch, Major and Brown, somebody's lying. And who is the common element in all these disputed conversations and relationships?

Me? I can live with a dead duck discredited PM. Hell, I gained my political awareness under Major.

Bones McCoy · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am **Posts:** 7419

crabcakes_windermere wrote:

smod wrote:

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norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS

Gordon Brown office say Rupert Murdoch has been unable to provide any evidence of alleged "declaration of war" phone call in Sept 2009

Interesting indeed.

Other end, same story:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18459013

It does rather seem like Rupert has been caught spinning a whopper, and that it has backfired somewhat as it's getting as much attention as his original statement.

Plus of course if he lied about it at Leveson under oath, it raises the question of what else he lied about. All adds to the body of weight that he's a corrupt, arrogant bastard unfit to run a cesspool, let alone elements of the national press.

We prefer to call them piss dungeons in these enlightened times.

Fozzy · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:50 pm

mojojojo wrote:

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1441: The BBC's Carolyn Quinn tweets: Eleanor Laing, Con MP, angrily blames Vince Cable's behaviour when in charge of the BSkyB bid for placing J Hunt in difficult position

Beautiful.

Mr Fozzy worked with Eleanor Laing before she became an MP. On his account, to describe her as being as thick as two short planks would be a gross insult to short planks.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:22 pm

According to the Mail, it seems our Brian lobbed his judicial toys out of the pram over Pob's hostility.

But if that made him cross, how furious must he have been at the Govester's arrogant performance as a witness?

It'll be interesting to read how much of that headline is in the story.

>edit<
Chris Mason at the BBC has Tweeted that Brian did, indeed, phone to complain, but at no stage threatened to resign.
I wonder how he'll react to this story, then...

satnav · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:01 pm

Because Leveson isn't sitting next week the story will not be properly corrected until a week on Monday when Leveson will presumably deny threatening to resign. After a number of cabinet ministers made it clear to Leveson that they don't really support press reform perhaps the papers are now going to start taking more risks again.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:08 pm

The story's up now. And it isn't what the headline suggests...

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Government insiders say they were convinced Leveson was prepared to resign in protest unless Ministers stopped passing comment on his inquiry.

So someone in the cabinet (Cameron?) told someone at the Mail (Dacre?) that they thought that Leveson might resign if ministers continued to speak against him.

Pure spin.

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Other insiders insisted Leveson did not threaten to walk away from the inquiry, but they confirmed the phone call to Sir Jeremy – and that Leveson said Ministers such as Mr Gove should not speak out.

Quite.

The story seems also to re-tell the Brown Declares War On Murdoch story, which I thought had been put to bed by the cabinet office...

Gove's speech and point of view is given great prominence, the whole article seems to be reiterating Gove's points. It's also mendacious, motivated by spite, partial and misleading, but hey, it's the Mail.

Patrick100 · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:38 pm **Posts:** 600

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Lord Justice Leveson complained to the UK's top civil servant after a cabinet minister raised concerns about his inquiry into the press, it has emerged.

Education Secretary Michael Gove said in February that the debate around the hearings could erode freedom of speech.

That prompted the judge to contact Cabinet Secretary Sir Jeremy Heywood.

Lord Justice Leveson is understood to have been worried that if Mr Gove was speaking for the whole cabinet it could undermine his inquiry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18475431

new puritan · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:13 am

Jesus wept. I'm not a violent man by any means but by Christ I'd love to stick the nut on Gove.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 am

Fuck off, Gove, you steaming cunt.

Leveson is sitting for a few months. His report can be kicked into the long grass by the Prime Minister.

Your mate Rupes has been pulling the strings for 30 years. And no-one can has been able to do anything about that.

The Red Arrow · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:23 am

I'll tell you what's chilling, Mr Gove. That a party that couldn't obtain a working majority is busily fucking up the entire country beyond repair as if they've got some sort of mandate.

Daley Mayle · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:49 am

If 'chilling' becomes to mean that the press will have to think twice before lobbing in a story then Leveson will have done his job.

crabcakes_windermere · **Joined:** Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:56 pm **Posts:** 2089

I think Gove is heading for a mutual enemy-engineered fall. Cameron can't have failed to notice he's blatantly manoeuvring for a takeover of the top job by charming the old-school (read: ultra-cuntish) Tories, and Rupes will push for him because he knows if Gove can get in quick enough he can basically neuter Leveson by the time it publishes its findings and then he can have his merry way with the UK's press and TV.

Problem is, their timing is off and it's not the moment to strike: despite the paper headlines last week Cameron isn't weak enough for a direct attack yet, but Gove (arrogant and stupid prick he is) has shown all his cards already because he's straining at the leash and can't wait. Murdoch is also still acting like Leveson hasn't happened and seems to assume it'll still be what he says goes. I think their overconfidence is going to be their downfall and Gove's blatant crawling to Uncle Rupert will be the (political) death of him. Cameron will want to see the challenge dealt with, as will any other potential suitors who don't enjoy Rupert's ear. And we all know what a bunch of backstabbing bastards the Tories are. The best people to deal with the odious git are his alleged colleagues.

Andy McDandy · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:15 pm

Good analysis, I agree that Gove has shot his bolt too early. Set himself up as a friend of the press, maintainer of the status quo and darling of the social right. Only problem is that he's made himself a target for everyone else to aim at. Well, I say problem. For him at least. Bloody funny for the rest of us.

If you're right and open season on Cammers is about to begin, it'll be follwoed quickly by a lot of people gunning for Gove. He won't get the leadership though. He's too fogeyish, too intellectual. Voters hate him, and see his vanity projects for what they are.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:02 pm

Some Murdoch employee called Isabel Oakeshott is on the Sunday Politics claiming it's obvious that Brown must be a liar because he denied he was going to hold a snap election. Yeah, must be him lying, not your boss. And she's cited Peter Mandleson in alleged support. And apparently the most jaw dropping moment was Brown saying he "would hope" none of his allies briefed against opponents.

Utter tripe.

And everyone reckoned Leveson had a "thin skin" because of the Gove business. No-one pointed out that Govey doesn't have a very good record on freedom of information for a champion of freedom of the press.

satnav · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:50 pm

James Murdoch should disclose contents of second mobile phone to Leveson inquiry, says Tom Watson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9336913/Unions-leading-Labour-up-blind-alley-by-leaning-further-to-the-left-says-Lord-Mandelson.html

Now there's a surprise James Murdoch used a different mobile for sending certain text messages. This seems to echo claims that Gove allegedly uses private emails to cover up some of his dodgy dealings.

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