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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:57 am 
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Salvation Army Media Relations Director: Gays Should Be Put to Death

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We’ve written many times in the past that if you’re both gay and a donor to the Salvation Army, you must also be crazy.

It’s not just that the Salvation Army doesn’t support the full equality of LGBT people. It’s not even the fact that the organization has a documented history of refusing aid to gay people in need.

It’s the fact that the Salvation Army’s own inter-company literature calls for the death of gay people. And Media Relations Director Major Andrew Craibe, the man responsible for creating good press for SA, has no qualms about advocating this policy live on the radio.




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RYAN: . . . that says, according to the Salvation Army, that [they] deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?

CRAIBE: Well, that’s a part of our belief system.

RYAN (cutting in): So we should die.

CRAIBE: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that’s our belief.

RYAN: Wow. So we should die.


RYAN: It’s going into Romans again . . . I accept that you’re out there wanting to help people . . . I don’t accept that this sexuality that is part of my DNA is a choice. I also don’t accept the support of any religion in a financial sense, and this is what the gay community is up in arms about: that you’re proposing in your religious doctrine and the way that you train — this is partof your training of your soldiers — that because we’re gay, that — we must die. If you go to Romans, book 1, 18-32, it’s all there, mate. I mean, how can you stand by that? How is that Christian?

CRAIBE: Well, well, because that is part of our Christian doctrine –

RYAN (interrupting): But how is that Christian? Shouldn’t it be about love?

CRAIBE: — that’s our understanding of that. Well, the love that we would show is about that: consideration for all human beings to come to know salvation –

RYAN: Or die. . .

CRAIBE: Well, yes.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:16 am 
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If that's true, it's deeply unfortunate. Time for a change of post! It's also really unfair on the volunteers in the shops, sorting out all the donated goods for the hard-up and the hipsters. They don't want to be potentially embroiled in confrontational semantics, and shouldn't have to be.

When I meet Christians now, I talk about amending the 'constitution', like we do in other areas of the 3rd sector, when policies become unworkable, or new ideas emerge. Of course, they claim their rules and beliefs are literally set in stone, from way, way back. It is a real shame, as this modern sexuality issue can be such a set-back to the genuinely essential and decent community work that some of these faith related charities perform.

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If that's true, it's deeply unfortunate.


Thankfully. The Salvation Army are treating Leviticus as a 'metaphor'....

Salvation Army Australia apologizes for official's anti-gay comments

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